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Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by onli »

svl wrote: post #240
nicce wrote: post #198

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I would imagine this update tranfers to general Linux well? Not a small thing.

Sadly they explicitly don't support that. :( > Now that there is a Steam Deck Native build, is Baldur’s Gate 3 supported on Linux? > Larian does not provide support for the Linux platform. The Steam Deck Native build is only supported on Steam Deck.

I'd expect it to work anyway. Under Steam at least. There is nothing special about the Steam Deck/SteamOS that's not available on other distros when running Steam, afaik.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by alias_neo »

blahlabs wrote: post #127
nullbyte808 wrote: post #93

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Bazzite on PC is much better.

Or Bazzite on a Legion Go if you would like to keep that portability.

Or Bazzite on a ROG Ally (X), which is what I run, very happy with it.

Though if I was buying it now, I'd want to see what the next generation offers.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by aucisson_masque »

> Larian does not provide support for the Linux platform. The Steam Deck Native build is only supported on Steam Deck.

I though the steam deck would be the reason why developper start building their game for linux, but it seems like it's a bigger issue than just making a "linux file". Once they have rewritten the code for the steam deck, what would prevent them to compile the game for Debian and other linux distributions ?

I really have no idea how much more work it is but assumed it would be straight forward.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by theshrike79 »

nicce wrote: post #215
jansommer wrote: post #200

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Already runs smooth on Linux (Wine)

Yes, but native is always native.

When Proton started to get good, there were multiple stories of small game studios just dropping their bespoke Linux builds because the Windows->Proton version ran much much faster and required zero effort from them.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by shakow »

dbspin wrote: post #258
sReinwald wrote: post #247

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Not that I'm aware of. I thought that was weird at first as well, but I assume it might be in a way to protect the engineer. Unfortunately, singling out any individual developer, even for praise, can attract unwanted negative attention online. By acknowledging the passion and the work without naming the person, Swen gives them full credit internally while shielding them from becoming a public target. This doesn't eve…

This is an interesting perspective... I'd be at a loss to think of an example of an engineer who's been publicly pilloried (having been highly regarded for great work) for the failings of their company. Perhaps you could cite and example? Seems enormously more likely to be the all to familiar story in the games industry of not providing credit to individual devs. Something that goes back to the earliest days of Atari…

> I'd be at a loss to think of an example of an engineer who's been publicly pilloried (having been highly regarded for great work) for the failings of their company. Perhaps you could cite and example?

Because these guys and gals are not famous enough to warrant large coverage, and because the phenomenon is unfortunately so widespread that noone is going to cover every case.

https://endofaspecies.com/oped/the-harassment-of-game-develo...

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2621gzvkdo

https://old.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/zoe13c/passionate_...

https://www.gameshub.com/news/news/video-games-developers-gd...

https://www.xfire.com/authorities-investigating-death-threat...

https://f1000research.com/articles/11-1518

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by adezxc »

saghm wrote: post #140
appleaday1 wrote: post #80

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I streamed BG3 on the deck, I played it with one of those logitech keyboards on my living room tv setups, was pretty great

My default way of playing nowadays (for all games, not just BG3) is to stream to my Deck from my desktop using Sunshine. Surprisingly, I don't really notice any input latency even with my desktop upstairs in my office while I'm playing downstairs in my living room.

Could you share your configuration? (Mostly interested in Network) I still see some noticeable latency if I stream from my PC through wifi to steam deck which is connected to a TV. At one point I just dropped the idea as I wanted to actually play the game instead of tinkering for too long.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by dkersten »

svl wrote: post #240
nicce wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would imagine this update tranfers to general Linux well? Not a small thing.

Sadly they explicitly don't support that. :( > Now that there is a Steam Deck Native build, is Baldur’s Gate 3 supported on Linux? > Larian does not provide support for the Linux platform. The Steam Deck Native build is only supported on Steam Deck.

Of course they don’t, it would be crazy to say they would support all the different possible distros and configurations that people might run, when the majority of users are in steam deck. But that doesn’t mean it won’t run, just that if you have issues, they don’t promise to fix them. Seems reasonable to me.

BG3 already ran well enough on Linux, so I imagine this will only make it run better, official support or not.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by shortercode »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #273

> Larian does not provide support for the Linux platform. The Steam Deck Native build is only supported on Steam Deck. I though the steam deck would be the reason why developper start building their game for linux, but it seems like it's a bigger issue than just making a "linux file". Once they have rewritten the code for the steam deck, what would prevent them to compile the game for Debian and other linux distribut…

I would assume the issue is all the variation in different distros. Plus the driver/hardware combinations. While some setups would just work they don’t see it as worth spending the time doing the validation/patching required. The steam deck is 1 device to test, with a single software stack. Much easier to target, and with a known customer base. Which brings up the other issue that they would be unlikely to make their money back on a general Linux release. Companies have cited this as a reason for not doing macOS releases in the past and based on the last steam survey Linux usage is in a similar ballpark (2.6% vs 1.8% for Mac ).

Despite all this I think it’s still a move in the right direction.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by rtpg »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #273

> Larian does not provide support for the Linux platform. The Steam Deck Native build is only supported on Steam Deck. I though the steam deck would be the reason why developper start building their game for linux, but it seems like it's a bigger issue than just making a "linux file". Once they have rewritten the code for the steam deck, what would prevent them to compile the game for Debian and other linux distribut…

> Once they have rewritten the code for the steam deck, what would prevent them to compile the game for Debian and other linux distributions ?

You can install Steam on Debian.

I think the value here is that with Steam being the "approved launcher" you offload a lot of "distro weirdness" over to Valve. The value of a standalone build seems fairly low for most game devs.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by jeroenhd »

aucisson_masque wrote: post #273

> Larian does not provide support for the Linux platform. The Steam Deck Native build is only supported on Steam Deck. I though the steam deck would be the reason why developper start building their game for linux, but it seems like it's a bigger issue than just making a "linux file". Once they have rewritten the code for the steam deck, what would prevent them to compile the game for Debian and other linux distribut…

You can run the game on Linux just fine, Larian just won't help you if it breaks or bugs out. SteamOS is just a well-customised Arch fork, after all.

Announcing official Linux support would also require testing on Intel and Nvidia GPUs, as well as other types of AMD GPUs, which would probably take much more time and effort than testing for a device with effectively two hardware revisions you need to test for. I don't think they want the support burden, and I don't disagree with them having had to debug obscure Linux GPU issues myself.

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