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Starbucks in Korea asks customers to stop bringing in printers/desktop computers

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Post by chii »

jameslk wrote: post #215
Nifty3929 wrote: post #137

Free, common-use things are awesome - until the tragedy of the commons sets in and ruins it for everybody. This is true of so many things that start free and then later require payment. And everybody gets mad about it.

Tragedy of the commons is caused by out of sync motives. Like a mismatch in protocols that people speak, which is partially explained by culture and upbringing (only partially of course). That is, tragedy of the commons is a symptom not a cause. Not something that happens just by virtue of something being a part of the commons. The more people you have, the more opportunity for those to be out of sync too In the case…

> a proper protocol for what is acceptable to do in a coffee shop

i had thought that the accepted protocol for making a cafe a working space is to purchase at least one item on the menu per hour.

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Post by lucyjojo »

dismalaf wrote: post #162
ge96 wrote: post #138

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wonder if you can bring a tent inside and camp

Homeless people do it all the time in certain cities. And because judges won't jail them for crimes police have stopped trying.

how prevalent. is hate on homeless people in the usa?

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

tasuki wrote: post #62
thrown-0825 wrote: post #33

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Hard to do when starbucks is a real estate holding company that sells coffee. They have sucked all the air out of the cafe space and driven out their competitors.

> They have sucked all the air out of the cafe space and driven out their competitors. How?

They had a policy of saturating an area until all the competition closed then withdrawing shops until they were profitable. It was quite common to see two Starbucks across the road from each other.

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

wkat4242 wrote: post #265
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #252

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From the data I have seen you are incorrect. Certainly the most visible and disruptive of the homeless are the meth heads and folks with serious mental health problems, but a large chunk are people who simply can't afford a place to live. Los of people living out of their cars out there.

Ok I was speaking from my knowledge of here in Europe (my ex worked with homeless and unemployed) and here it's really not the case. People here don't live on the streets unless there's something seriously wrong with them. Anyone else is well supported by the welfare system. They won't be rich and it may take a while and often not in a good area but they'll have a place to live. If this is common for regular people i…

Ah! Yeah we are having completely different experiences, since I'm in the US.

I expect you are correct about the votes for Trump. Voting for change without understanding if that change is likely to be good or bad. Public policy issues are complex and most people probably don't have the time or energy to understand exactly what they are voting for.

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Post by jjani »

PeterStuer wrote: post #174

If this is such a pervasive problem you'd think the article would have had no problem sourcing a photo of this instead of some generic phone ogling group?

I've been to Starbucks in Seoul 100+ times (not proud of it, more the opposite) and have never seen anything like this.

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Post by red-iron-pine »

bombcar wrote: post #238
codedokode wrote: post #184

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Interesting. Can a tourist set up a tent in New York City in order to not pay ridiculous hotel fees or this is allowed only to citizens?

If you have anything to lose you can’t be homeless (or they’ll take it from you first). Once you’re judgement proof do whatever you want.

judgement proof isn't freedom, it just means they can't chase you for liens.

you get your shit back together you're gonna feel that misery real fast when they start garnishing wages.

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Post by bombcar »

red-iron-pine wrote: post #278
bombcar wrote: post #238

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If you have anything to lose you can’t be homeless (or they’ll take it from you first). Once you’re judgement proof do whatever you want.

judgement proof isn't freedom, it just means they can't chase you for liens. you get your shit back together you're gonna feel that misery real fast when they start garnishing wages.

That’s the whole point - there’s an entire class of punishments that only work for people who are “playing by the rules” (e.g., have a job as a productive member of society).

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Post by miffy900 »

Arnavion wrote: post #193
kzrdude wrote: post #163

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That must be a tablet made to look like a desktop setup right?

Could be a monitor with a mini PC on the back.

Nope. On closer inspection, it's a tablet resting on a stand; it's not mounted with a VESA clamp or arm like most monitors would be. You can see the USB charging cable is plugged into the side of the tablet as well. When you compare it to the keyboard and headphones next to it, it must be about 11-13 inches in size, so it's unlikely to hold a mini PC on the back as it wouldn't be heavy enough to prevent toppling over. The stand would be bigger too if it could hold a mini PC.
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