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Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Ok, but try refusing the requests of border authorities in any country and see how far you get before you find yourself escorted to a back room.

I've visited 45 countries in my life and I've never ever been even asked once to even show the contents of my bag, let alone access to my phone.

That doesn't change the fact that once you will be asked about that, your refusal will mean a flight back home at best.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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The Italians do the same thing. If your name matches some name or you’ve travelled to some naughty place, you’ll get picked for this sort of thing. That said, the last time I went to Italy the customs guy looked annoyed at being awake. He asked my son’s age (he is huge but too young to use the electronic gate), then shrugged and stamped my passport with all of his strength.

Don't spread misinformation. The difference is that in Italy it is not against the law to not hand out the password to your phone -- or anything else for that matter.

You're mistaking laws that hold for citizens and rules that hold for immigration and thus spreading misinformation.

Even on Schengen borders they can ask you for your phone and deny your entry if you don't comply as a non-citizen.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Completely agree, I don't want this to disrupt the Bop Spotter https://walzr.com/bop-spotter

Probably a good time as any to replace it with something purpose-built anyway. A Raspberry Pi with a directional microphone and a custom app feeding said microphone data to a service like AudD or ACRCloud could readily do the trick without any of Android's extra baggage - though I do wonder how effective those services would be at detecting songs amid a bunch of background noise like Bop Spotter does via Shazam.

Phone cameras are better than anything else you can get in the same form factor. The very expensive patents behind image processing algorithms keep good cameras out of the hobbyist world.

Same for 5G modems. A $50 phone will give you gigabit 5G, but you'll pay $500 to get that in non-phone form factor, mostly because on patents on the 5G tech which are charged differently for phones vs dedicated modems.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Long Press power while pressing volume down works on all Android devices I've used to date. And that's ignoring the fact that disconnecting power, waiting a few days and then reconnecting it will inevitably let you cold boot it, too (which this would be an equivalent to - as far as I understood it)

That key combo is screenshot on android 14...

The force power of happens after something like 30s, the screenshot should be pretty much instant

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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This is a Google Play Services update. For GrapheneOS users without GApps wondering: A similar feature is already built-in: https://grapheneos.org/features#auto-reboot

That’s weird. I wouldn’t expect Play Services to handle a system function like rebooting unrelated to any Google services.

No. Play Services is Google's way to make Android closed source. Many new features don't get implemented in Android, but Play Services. Many apps don't work (correctly) without Play Services.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

#276

How is this going to work with SIM cards that need a PIN? I'll be just unreachable until I notice the reboot?

I don't remember the PIN to my work SIM card. Can't wait to lose my work phone halfway through a conference / business trip because I haven't touched it in a while.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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Issue is, you kinda have a agent 007, sort of setup with the advanced data protection thing. I think you need an appropriate solution.

But all I want is "Please dont reboot my phone! Very please!" setting in options.

I can understand Apple on this. They make phones for the general public not HN and many people are stupid enough never to run updates.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

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It's good to have an option like that, even being a default, but there definitively need a switch to disable that if it is your own will. It's not even necessarily that good enough against cops, because in a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics, not disclosing or at least inputting your password might be a crime severely punished. If I'm not wrong, there was a guy that had to stay years in…

> a lot of shitty countries, even some pretending to be democratics,

I think you're basically calling out all the democracies, then.

Re: Android phones will soon reboot themselves after sitting unused for three days

#279

Mine randomly reboots semi-periodically already, even when it hasn't been shown as having downloaded an update. That said, I think this is a fairly good idea, although with the encryption stuff they do, this will cause people who rarely use their phones to miss calls and alarms.

Probably vendor specific whether it works, but alarms and calls should still work before unlocking/decrypting in "direct boot" mode
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