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Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Post by edent »

rsynnott wrote: post #257
edent wrote: post #254

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No, we know what Itch say was on there. You and I have know knowledge of what was actually on there. Neither of us have seen the complaint nor the page itself.

... Ah, I see, you're speculating that itch is _lying_ about it? Why would they? Like, what they describe is the sort of thing you'd expect to find on itch. Occam's razor very much says that they are not lying, and that this is simply a false report by 'AI' spamware.

I'm not speculating about anything. They made a claim and provided nothing to evidence it.

Similarly, the other side have made a claim which - apparently - was accepted by the registrar.

Why does Occam's razor not say that the claimant isn't lying?

FWIW, I think Itch are probably right. But there is a lot of IP infringement on there. Is it unreasonable to think that one of those page might have a phishing form on it?

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Post by acka »

rjmunro wrote: post #218
acka wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More than the hypothetical risk of Earth being consumed by a paperclip-making machine, I believe the real and present danger in the use of ML and AI technology lies in humans making irresponsible decisions about where and how to apply these technologies. For example, in my country, we are still dealing with the fallout from a decision made over a decade ago by the Tax Department. They used a poorly designed ML algori…

Please say something like "here in [insert country name]", or "back home in [insert country name]" intead of "in my country", otherwise we have no idea what you are talking about.

Unfortunately I can no longer edit my original comment. It is about the so-called "Toeslagenaffaire" (childcare benefits scandal)[1] in the Netherlands.

Also, here is a blog post[2] warning about the improper use of algorithmic enforcement tools like the one that was used in this scandal.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_childcare_benefits_scand...

[2] https://eulawenforcement.com/?p=7941

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Post by safety1st »

leafo wrote: post #31

I'm the one running itch.io, so here's some more context for you: From what I can tell, some person made a fan page for an existing Funko Pop video game (Funko Fusion), with links to the official site and screenshots of the game. The BrandShield software is probably instructed to eradicate all "unauthorized" use of their trademark, so they sent reports independently to our host and registrar claiming there was "fraud…

So it sounds like this was DMCA abuse by Funko, aided and abetted by BrandShield, and it resulted in damages to you. Also sounds like iwantmyname just went along with it, they are probably conditioned to do so by the rules.

I would write up a complaint and send it to the incoming FTC Commissioner. Yes, I'm serious. From the signals Trump is sending if there is ever a time when Republicans may support some form of DMCA reform, it's now. He's on record talking about punishing Big Tech and supporting "Little Tech." You're Little Tech. Send copies of your letter to Funko and BrandShield. Also reach out or at least send a copy to Matt Stoller, the guy who publishes a very popular newsletter about monopoly, anti-trust and corporate abuse in America, he will be interested. Go for the throat.

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Post by wholinator2 »

CaptainFever wrote: post #172
acka wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More than the hypothetical risk of Earth being consumed by a paperclip-making machine, I believe the real and present danger in the use of ML and AI technology lies in humans making irresponsible decisions about where and how to apply these technologies. For example, in my country, we are still dealing with the fallout from a decision made over a decade ago by the Tax Department. They used a poorly designed ML algori…

Perhaps in certain cases requiring someone to sign off, and take the blame if anything happens, would help alleviate this problem. Much like how engineers need to sign off on construction plans. (Layman here, obviously.)

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Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Post by Jdfmiller »

I sent a request to the registrar, and they emailed with this response. They're claiming it wasn't their fault.

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  Your request has been updated. To add additional comments, reply to this email.

  9 Dec 2024, 10:57 UTC

  Hello and thank you for your message.
  The domain name was already reinstated earlier today after the registrant finally responded to our notice and took appropriate action to resolve the issue

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Post by thomasfortes »

kmlx wrote: post #263
betteryet wrote: post #178

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Same thing with Gandi, which is a shame. Domain renewal price silently went up 3x or so last year after getting acquired.

does anyone here use cloudflare as a registrar? i’m interested in any potential negatives.

You're stuck with cloudflare nameservers¹, so if you want to change nameservers you need to transfer them to other registrar, how much of a deal breaker this is is up to you, to me is project dependent.

1. Section 6.1 of https://www.cloudflare.com/domain-registration-agreement/

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Post by Sebb767 »

egorfine wrote: post #196
0x073 wrote: post #185

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I don't know the company size, but as a paying customer I expect them better support and more time. If they have a customer like steam would they just cut off the domain? Probably not. Other domain registrations would just ignored this and nothing would happened.

> I expect them better support I expect total ignorance from a typical domain registrar. > If they have a customer like steam would they just cut off the domain? Probably not. Take a look who is they registrar and then look their prices up. > Other domain registrations would just ignored this and nothing would happened Yeah, they would totally ignore their customer just like that one did. Unfortunately, providing pro…

> Take a look who is they registrar and then look their prices up.

So, in case anyone is interested, their registrar is MarkMonitor Inc., with a pricing of "contact us". The only pricing info I could find [0] said that it's 20$/yr for a .com, but with a minimum spend of 10k$ (probably reached by using their other services, such as the stated purpose of monitoring of trademarks).

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18063232

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Post by smitelli »

bb010g wrote: post #264
paxys wrote: post #5

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I feel like it's better to have a "do use" list for something as important as a domain name registrar. - Namecheap - Cloudflare - Route 53 (if on AWS) Any others?

I've had great experiences with NameSilo.

Another happy customer of NameSilo here. A handful of .com, .net, and a .org domain registered with them, and I've never been personally irritated by anything they've done.

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Post by technotarek »

kmlx wrote: post #263
betteryet wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same thing with Gandi, which is a shame. Domain renewal price silently went up 3x or so last year after getting acquired.

does anyone here use cloudflare as a registrar? i’m interested in any potential negatives.

I’ve got about twenty domains listed with them. No problems after 2-3 years, but I do wonder whether it’s a good idea to use the same vendor for DNS and domain registration.

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Post by Beijinger »

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1. internet.bs No Bullshit Domains. I am using them since 10 years, and I am very happy. Email is comparatively expensive, but you can buy this separately from infomaniak.com for 18 EURO a year.

2. If you need country TLDs, this may be a good option: inwx.com

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