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Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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A similar thing has happened to me before. There is a company with the same name as my surname with a trademark for it. When I registered a domain with my surname in it, the registrar had an automatic process in place that checked for this trademark and took away access of the domain. So far so good. The problem was that the registrar and its support then ghosted me and also never refunded me for the money already pa…

Which registrar was this? I’d like to avoid them.

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Oh damn, I didn't know this! I've used their services for ages and even got to briefly meet the founders once in Wellington who gave a talk on Erlang. Ah well, while it sucks that the good times may be over, I'm glad the founders got their exit :)

> I'm glad the founders got their exit I'm not. I mean, I am happy for them but this concept of growing a business to an exit is not going well for society as a whole (at least the exits that are in my areas of interest, so I assume it extrapolates to all exits). Every single business that gets bought out gets instantly enshittified in one way or another, always to the detriment of the customer. Depending on how entr…

Every time that happens it just makes an opportunity for someone else to start a new competitor

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Brand Shield and other AI slopware needs to be sued to death for all the damage they cause, including their customer's reputation and bottom line

Even if the suit is 100% justified (which it is in this case), and you can show damages, the problem will usually be of jurisdiction. Funko Pop is an American Company. BrandShield, the "Brand Protection Software" they used, is based out of Israel. iwantmyname, the registrar, is from New Zealand. They got bought out by Team Internet, which is British. And who knows where all of them are actually registered. They are a…

You sue the registrar, because you have the contract with the registrar.

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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I'm the one running itch.io, so here's some more context for you: From what I can tell, some person made a fan page for an existing Funko Pop video game (Funko Fusion), with links to the official site and screenshots of the game. The BrandShield software is probably instructed to eradicate all "unauthorized" use of their trademark, so they sent reports independently to our host and registrar claiming there was "fraud…

I smell a class action lawsuit. That's a whole lot of lost revenue and time for you and itch.io's creators.

Godspeed!

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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I'm the one running itch.io, so here's some more context for you: From what I can tell, some person made a fan page for an existing Funko Pop video game (Funko Fusion), with links to the official site and screenshots of the game. The BrandShield software is probably instructed to eradicate all "unauthorized" use of their trademark, so they sent reports independently to our host and registrar claiming there was "fraud…

It's surprising that this happened at all. Isn't it in most business's best interests to be aware of their most high-profile customers? If this was an automatic process, it's pretty disappointing that it even occurred. If I was running a SaaS, I'd probably want to mark my important accounts so an actual human has to investigate any raised alerts instead of being dealt with by a cron.

Domain names themselves are a loss leader for registrars. They make money by upselling customers on hosting, email, certificates, analytics etc. So if you are just paying a couple dollars a year for a domain name and nothing else, your profile doesn't really matter. You are in the lowest tier of customers.

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm glad the founders got their exit I'm not. I mean, I am happy for them but this concept of growing a business to an exit is not going well for society as a whole (at least the exits that are in my areas of interest, so I assume it extrapolates to all exits). Every single business that gets bought out gets instantly enshittified in one way or another, always to the detriment of the customer. Depending on how entr…

Sell it to the employees? It won't be lucrative to selling it to someone with more cash than sense, but it may be more likely to preserve the value. There's no guarantee of course, and there's so little experience societal wide in running an employee co-op.

There are a few employee co-ops, but I don't know how good they are. Over here in the UK we have the Co-op[0], which is a national chain of small local shops. It's a consumer co-operative rather than a workers' cooperative, though. I don't know how well it works, or what its challenges are, but it definitely exists.

[0] https://www.co-operative.coop

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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The registrar in question is iwantmyname, so I guess you can add them to your "do not use" list.

I feel like it's better to have a "do use" list for something as important as a domain name registrar. - Namecheap - Cloudflare - Route 53 (if on AWS) Any others?

I use infomaniak from switzerland. Mainly because I can physically go to their office and discuss in person if there is a problem.

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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It's possible they were using LLMs (or even just traditional ML algorithms) to choose if a certain webpage was fraud/phishing instead of mere trademark infringement, though. In this case it makes sense that one would be angry that a sapient being didn't first check if the report was accurate before sending it off.

More than the hypothetical risk of Earth being consumed by a paperclip-making machine, I believe the real and present danger in the use of ML and AI technology lies in humans making irresponsible decisions about where and how to apply these technologies. For example, in my country, we are still dealing with the fallout from a decision made over a decade ago by the Tax Department. They used a poorly designed ML algori…

Please say something like "here in [insert country name]", or "back home in [insert country name]" intead of "in my country", otherwise we have no idea what you are talking about.

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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I'm the one running itch.io, so here's some more context for you: From what I can tell, some person made a fan page for an existing Funko Pop video game (Funko Fusion), with links to the official site and screenshots of the game. The BrandShield software is probably instructed to eradicate all "unauthorized" use of their trademark, so they sent reports independently to our host and registrar claiming there was "fraud…

For what it's worth, I know Namecheap gets a meh rep, but we've been on the receiving end of several phishing/copyright reports and have responded across the spectrum in terms of time span. We've responded immediately. We've responded with an hour or so to go. In all cases, Namecheap has somehow responded quickly and resolved the issue.

Re: Itch.io Taken Down by Funko

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A similar thing has happened to me before. There is a company with the same name as my surname with a trademark for it. When I registered a domain with my surname in it, the registrar had an automatic process in place that checked for this trademark and took away access of the domain. So far so good. The problem was that the registrar and its support then ghosted me and also never refunded me for the money already pa…

“iwantmyname”, from leafo’s post here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42364033
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