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Re: YC criticized for backing AI startup that simply cloned another AI startup

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I'm well-versed in the terms of Apache 2.0. You are misinterpreting them. The key clause here is that last one: provided Your use, reproduction, and distribution of the Work otherwise complies with the conditions stated in this License . The entire parts of the code base you didn't modify are still copyrighted by their original authors, and are still subject to the Apache 2.0 license. This is why big tech companies m…

> you can't just fork a project, make, a trivial one-line change, call it a derivative work, and replace the license yes you can "You may reproduce and distribute copies of the Work or Derivative Works thereof in any medium, with or without modifications"

You can reproduce and distribute. That isn't even remotely the same as saying you can sub-license or re-license code that you don't own the copyright on.

Source code is generally copyrighted by its author (or the author's employer, in the case of work for hire). If you wish to use, reproduce, or distribute code that you don't own the copyright of, you need a license to do so, and you must follow the terms of the license.

If you include that work in your own derivative work, and you choose to make your derivative work be open source (which is entirely optional with permissive licenses), then for any unmodified portions of the code you must comply with the original license. This is because you are inherently reproducing and distributing copyrighted source code that you didn't write and don't hold the copyright for. You have no ability to change the license on that unmodified code, as you aren't the copyright holder, the license does not grant you ownership, and you must continue to comply with the original license terms to include that code in your open source repo at all.

Re: YC criticized for backing AI startup that simply cloned another AI startup

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I have no reason to think you even know what my argument is based on, because all I've seen are nitpicky side-tracks.

>If your argument is based on false premises then there is no substance in your conclusion.

I appreciate you demonstrating so clearly that you're not engaging at all.

Re: YC criticized for backing AI startup that simply cloned another AI startup

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I guess this is "enshittification all the way down!". Surely, YC made a mistake but not having a more thorough review. But I believe the phenomenon is even more widespread, we'll fixate on this one. Meanwhile, plenty of VCs are being scammed by kids. Can't blame them, really... Who's hiring? AI filtering out resumés, and so on.

Sorry for coming up too cynical, but we are going through crazy times. Hopefully it will stabilize soon... ~~AI~~ LLMs can't really reason. But the public (layman, managers, and big fish) are being deceived because billions of dollars were burnt ;/

Re: YC criticized for backing AI startup that simply cloned another AI startup

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This post has already been removed from the front page and my comment was flagged and I guarantee you have shadowbanned me already. Let's be real, you do this all the time Mr. Goebells. Your boys PG and Thiel are traitors who supported J6 and are actively trying to elect Donald Trump and JD Vance.

I've unkilled your comment so readers can make up their own minds.

Respect

Re: YC criticized for backing AI startup that simply cloned another AI startup

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That's simply not free software / open source anymore. First of the four freedoms is "to use for any purpose". https://osssoftware.org/blog/free-and-open-source-software-f... And we absolutely don't need any more licenses to compare against. https://spdx.org/licenses/

That is so according to the OSI definition. But conditions and the level of exploitation have changed, so first steps like the AGPL have emerged. If the Microsoft-funded OSI does not agree, perhaps we need an OSI-2.0. You will increasingly find developers that disagree with AI exploitation, so a new institution that is not Microsoft-funded would be welcome. That is how the original OSI started before they purged ESR.

Sorry but software licensed under AGPL absolutely can be used for every purpose. It's just that you have to share the (modified) code with your users if they access the software via the network. https://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2021/fall/the-fundamentals-of-t...
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