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Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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I don't know where the issue is but I've been having tons of problems with Adobe stuff only when my MBP is connected to an external monitor.

It's like the canvas in Illustrator stops rendering frames randomly. Sometimes I do something like writing text or dragging an object and it takes a second or two for the change to render.

It's been almost a year now and most issues are still there.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/illustrator-discussions/multi...

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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> The Mac operating system still Just. Fucking. Sucks. at remembering where windows were, when relaunching apps. I agree and it's confounding. For me it's even worse: when plugging back into my home office after some work on the road, it doesn't remember the window positions associated with that setup, and I have to reorganize my dozens of windows away from the laptop screen again. I've solved this through a 3rd-part…

Wow DisplayMaid looks useful.

I managed to get my system "working" without knowing about it.

I have a macbook and an external display, and I utilize "desktops" heavily.

Basically desktop: 1 = gmail/calendar | 2 = slack, messenger, imessage, etc. | 3 = chrome | 4 = terminal | 5 = vscode

In the dock you can right click an app, and Options, Assign to Desktop N.

Luckily, when I plug my macbook into the dock with monitor, I actually want it to be a static desktop, showing just the website I'm working on. And I want the monitor to switch through desktops that have my applications.

This basically just works with one caveat. When switching from plugged in to unplugged, the macbook screen becomes desktop 1, and all the desktops shift over by one. So I just rearranged everything to be +1 (i.e. gmail/calendar are actually always desktop 2), and everything works seamlessly.

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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> The Mac operating system still Just. Fucking. Sucks. at remembering where windows were, when relaunching apps. I agree and it's confounding. For me it's even worse: when plugging back into my home office after some work on the road, it doesn't remember the window positions associated with that setup, and I have to reorganize my dozens of windows away from the laptop screen again. I've solved this through a 3rd-part…

While MacOS does seem to rearrange windows occasionally for no clear reason, and there have been serious bugs in past releases, it does correctly restore my window positions across two 4k external displays when I connect them through a Thunderbolt 4 docking station.

Maybe some applications have custom window position management and fail at multiple displays? I haven't noticed any.

The only third party tool that I use to help with window management is BetterSnapTool. It restores some basic missing functionality that comes built in in Windows, most importantly the ability to maximize windows and snap them to the left and right half of the screen, plus a few other things.

FWIW I am by far at my most productive with a 43" 4K display in front of me with a sidecar 23" arranged vertically for long vertical documents. I do wish that 43" was an 8K to double the DPI though.

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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Yes Apple has problems, but don't forget that performance / efficiency sucks when you have an accelerated compositor spanning across graphics cards. On top of that, most Macs don't have two graphics cards (or even slots to put them in), so you're really spanning across generic USB-C attached HDMI adapters that could be sharing the same bandwidth depending on where you plug them in. In a time when Apple wants to be 120hz HDR retina, that doesn't sound like a high priority for them.

That said I sometimes run side by side monitors, and I too would appreciate the pony.

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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My WindowServer is sitting at 30% CPU and 15% GPU on an M1 MacBook Pro and I have no idea why. I reboot the Mac more often than I rebooted my dogshit HP enterprise laptop. MacOS is just a bad OS. It's good if you only ever use the MacBook as a laptop, but the moment you hook it up to a useful setup, it becomes a drag.

Are you running an external display and is it DisplayLink?

Yes, HDMI-USB-C dedicated cable directly into the laptop.

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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>M1 MacBook Air was the most powerful fanless laptop Huh, my gaming laptop was the most powerful laptop with 3 USB-C ports and was the color blue. It also has an NVIDIA gpu. Apple had 0 blue laptops with 3 USB-C ports or NVIDIA GPUS. >I'm also pretty sure it had a GPU. (still has one) OH man! Victim of Apple marketing right here. You have an integrated GPU in your CPU. This is industry standard for the last 25+ years…

College students often prioritize battery life because they are away from chargers for so many hours of the day. And you absolutely have to admit the M1 Macs really just destroy Windows and Linux in terms of battery life. Regardless, there are very practical reasons to have different priorities than yours.

College kids need to be on their laptops all day?

Nah that is post purchase rationalization.

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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OP has PTSD from wintel computers i guess. People move to macs and don't expect sleep to work, expect to need a mouse for their laptops etc. I could contradict the entire article with my personal experiences if I took the time. Been using multiple monitor Macs (and Linux before them) for ages. > When the Dock is on the side, it only appears on the display that is farthest to that side. Having to move the mouse across…

> Who uses the dock? What's wrong with Right. Shame it can't be turned off then, nevermind just another user error right?

It effectively can be turned off with auto-hide, but yes, it would be nice to reclaim the system resources by quitting it like any other application.

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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Windows are not bad if you have control over them. But in corp env, you don't and the force updates, AV, FW, extra AV scans and other monitoring shit so even with 32 GB of RAM, fast SSD and latest i7 PC would start to act like it's Win98. That's why I switch to Mac M2, zero corporate shit and total control so it works great.

> That's why I switch to Mac M2, zero corporate shit and total control so it works great. Unless you work at an org that has all this stuff, like pretty much any org at scale that has compliance or security requirements. My work-issued MacBook has an AV that slows opening everything, forces updates and restarts and all that jazz.

Same. Our corporate-issue MBPs come with managed policies, AV software, and remote control services (remote wipe, lockout). It's why I'm never tempted to use work equipment for personal use.

I guess our org has chosen better management software, though, because it never results in restarts. The one exception is the requirement to keep the OS patched in order to log in to corporate systems.

The window position thing is really annoying though.

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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>M1 MacBook Air was the most powerful fanless laptop Huh, my gaming laptop was the most powerful laptop with 3 USB-C ports and was the color blue. It also has an NVIDIA gpu. Apple had 0 blue laptops with 3 USB-C ports or NVIDIA GPUS. >I'm also pretty sure it had a GPU. (still has one) OH man! Victim of Apple marketing right here. You have an integrated GPU in your CPU. This is industry standard for the last 25+ years…

> OH man! Victim of Apple marketing right here. You have an integrated GPU in your CPU. Dude, I know what an integrated GPU is (and it's certainly not "GPU in your CPU"). You're not smarter than everyone else for having a laptop with a dedicated GPU and running Linux on it. You haven't found a magical loophole in the laptop market by not buying Apple. You're just prioritizing different stuff than Apple users.

>You're not smarter than everyone else for having a laptop with a dedicated GPU and running Linux on it.

Sure there are 7B people in the world!

But I'm def smarter than people who spend $2500 on a few GB ram and no GPU. Plato suggests its wrong for smart people to be humble, it allows dumb people to step up and make their points.

If you arent compiling for iOS, you made an inefficient decision. There is a reason Apple is found on low to middle income consumer households, and not found in B2B. Guess which is most susceptible to emotional marketing.

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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Debian-family? Don't use outdated/old Linux Distros. I almost always find out someone is using a variant of Conical's Ubuntu CD marketing and it explains why they have some terrible experience. Updated distros usually have everything working with modern hardware working together with software. Look into Fedora. Ubuntu/Debian/Mint need to be avoided and we need to warn people.

Where "outdated" means like 1-2 years at maximum. The horror. If you want to plug "new" at least go for silver blue or nix os, where it makes a difference.

1-2 years is SOOO long

That means no running NVIDIA GPUs for 1-2 years!

Or having broken software for 1-2 years!

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