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Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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The XDR is easily one of the best monitors on the market for coding if you value high resolution. I've never had issues with bloom on it either, seems more relevant for stress tests than daily usage.

It's just a shame it costs as much as the whole rest of my setup put together...

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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My main issue with multiple displays on Mac is that the dock sometimes suddenly switches display. Sometimes this doesn't happen for weeks, other times it happens multiple times a day. When this happens, it tends to move the dock from the internal display to the external display, and the existing window on the external display suddenly gets smaller. The only resolution I've found when this occurs is unplugging and re-plugging the external display.

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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post #89

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Three times I tried switching from Windows to Mac and each time I bounced because of how janky basic window ergonomics were. I shouldn't have to buy single-dollar-programs to fix core OS functionality.

I wrote a hammerspoon script that moves my windows and the dock when I plug in to monitors. That's free, I agree we shouldn't have to have such a complex solution though. But I would bet that if Apple did provide a built in solution it would break the more complex solutions.

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Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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post #96

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> windows are now only ever shown on one display Untrue :D System Preferences > Desktop & Dock > Mission Control > Displays have separate Spaces > Off So why is it not allowing windows to overlap two displays when that setting is on? Because when it's on a) you can swap spaces independently on each screen and b) you can move individual spaces across displays. If you had overlapping windows, swapping Spaces or rearran…

I've just turned it off, and I still can't spread Safari over two displays. I'm on Sonoma, on an M3 Max, albeit using a third-party monitor.

Hi - toggling that setting requires a re-login to get Spaces to stop interfering with productive work. The windows still really want to jump to a specific display.

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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Well, BetterDisplay manages that just fine: https://cloud.paul.garden/s/eipiTJpKESPHZ6Q

Yeah, third party software will do that, Apple will probably just shrug and say, "it works with Apple displays".

Just like the touchpad and mouse 'scroll direction' setting being tied together. It makes sense for Apple mice/external trackpad (which all have a touch surface), so sod the 100% of other far more prevalent mice that use a scroll wheel, for which 'natural scroll' is absurdly unnatural (but disable it, and lose it on the built-in trackpad too).

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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post #67

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Yes - I noticed that the OP mentions they reboot a lot. If you just reboot for OS updates, and use sleep the rest of the time, most (all?) of these problems go away. Same for closing apps - with modern OS's keeping an app open is likely not an issue as it'll not consume resources when not in focus, unless it's running a heap of background tasks.

OP has PTSD from wintel computers i guess. People move to macs and don't expect sleep to work, expect to need a mouse for their laptops etc. I could contradict the entire article with my personal experiences if I took the time. Been using multiple monitor Macs (and Linux before them) for ages. > When the Dock is on the side, it only appears on the display that is farthest to that side. Having to move the mouse across…

> Who uses the dock? What's wrong with

Right. Shame it can't be turned off then, nevermind just another user error right?

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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I don't have a solution for the windows/dock/menubar not behaving correctly (which is why I've only been using my MacBook 14inch screen after my monitor died a year ago).

But my Lunar app (https://lunar.fyi/) does have some solutions for the other problems:

    I have an iMac Pro. Even if I were willing to waste the built-in display, I cannot – Apple does not allow iMacs to disable their internal displays.
Lunar can use a hidden macOS API to really disable the internal screen on Apple Silicon: https://lunar.fyi/pro#blackout It basically removes the screen from the Displays system settings and from the screen arrangement completely, and turns off its backlight.

On Intel it can simulate that by mirroring the screen and turning it black which does the job for most people.

    It’s very distracting having a bright display right next to one on which you’re trying to play a game.
Again, Blackout can help here with a handy action called "Make other screens black (keep this one visible)" which can be activated by Option-Shift-Click on the power button or with the finger-wrangling hotkey Ctrl-Opt-Cmd-Shift-6 (it can be re-assigned, I ran out of non-conflicting hotkeys)

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In the past, I spent a huge amount of time trying to fix the window problems using yabai rules (automating where windows should appear) and hotkeys for moving between displays. But it became a burden whenever I wanted to stray away from my pre-defined rules or when the cursor moved between displays erratically.

Nowadays I have:

• a single 14inch very bright and vivid display with a single Space/desktop

• all my apps covering the whole screen

• switching between apps with rcmd (https://lowtechguys.com/rcmd)

• ..and sometimes moving windows in a left/right pair with Swish (https://highlyopinionated.co/swish/)

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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post #70

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This is indeed the main problem. If you have two screens of the same model, the OS is unable to see which is which. This also goes for many USB devices (such as webcams that randomly swap).

Ok but then it could at least say "there is a screen plugged into port 1, and the same serial in port 2, so I'll draw the things that were on port 1 there again"? That way it would be up to the user to plug the same screen into the same port, which I think I could handle. Plus I can see the serials are actually different, so just going by serials should work. Or it should just tell you "hey buddy, you've got two scre…

Agreed. In my case with a 15" MBP M1 Max and two LG UltraFine 5K's, which I always plug in the same ports, 99% of the time it remembers which display is which correctly. On my 2018 Intel, this was hit and miss. It's obviously not a trivial problem to solve...

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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post #9

I don't think the issues of multi display really are only due the OS, my personal experience on multiple platform is that is suck regardless of whatever one thinks the solution would be. There are insolvable constraints implied by multi display: - Screen going on and off is an asynchronous mechanism that the OS has to treat by an event driven implementation. - All states must be valid (all graphical stuff must be put…

The only time Linux Fedora didn't work, was before I installed the Nvidia drivers.

I can't remember having any multi-display issues on Windows or Linux(after installing Nvidia).

Sound was always an issue for Windows.

Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks

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My main issue with multiple displays on Mac is that the dock sometimes suddenly switches display. Sometimes this doesn't happen for weeks, other times it happens multiple times a day. When this happens, it tends to move the dock from the internal display to the external display, and the existing window on the external display suddenly gets smaller. The only resolution I've found when this occurs is unplugging and re-…

Not sure if it’s a bug with your specific setup, but scrolling vertically in a straight line from the centre of the screen all the way to the bottom will make the dock switch to that monitor.
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