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Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by sorokod »

baybal2 wrote: post #231
dreamcompiler wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to find a good competitor too, and not just because of the geofencing. DJI has been identified as a national security threat by the US DOD, essentially because there's no way to be sure that every second of GPS-tagged video shot by a DJI drone isn't going into a giant server farm owned by the Chinese intelligence service. https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/270608...

> identified as a national security threat by the US DOD, essentially because there's no way to be sure that every second of GPS-tagged video shot by a DJI drone isn't going into a giant server farm owned by the Chinese intelligence service. There are far more obvious reasons for that. These drones are of enormous military value. By buying them, US consumers are funding an obvious foreign military hardware production…

>US money may well be funding production ...

This statement would be correct for any product of Chinese origin - no?

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by nebula8804 »

bloodyplonker22 wrote: post #251
nebula8804 wrote: post #242

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No because DJI, XPENG, BYD, and a ton of other Chinese companies have this 'move fast and break things' mentality X100 that most American firms don't have. They ran circles around GoPro and their attempts. Closest analog is Tesla/SpaceX but who knows if even those guys last long term when the guy running it is so easily distracted by nonsense (eg. Buying Twitter, starting yet another company, playing hours of Polytop…

Come on. American software startups literally invented that motto. Just because you may be working at a slower paced company doesn't mean America does not have it.

I did label a few American companies that are operating at that speed. Nevertheless in many different fields China is determined to win and they will move as fast as possible to make that happen. Its a foregone conclusion in Renewable energy, nuclear, a lot of consumer electrics, and soon EVs.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by elxr »

htatche wrote: post #9

I got all excited thinking of the potential of keeping this at the bottom of someone's pack given it's low weight, until I remembered how much I despise people flying drones on top of my head whenever I'm out in the outdoors, looking for a peaceful place to connect with nature.

Exactly how I feel. For me, I think the best use case for drones, if I were to get one someday, is for shooting sports/events where the prop noise would be drowned out by an already noisy environment.

Like motocross, or a basketball game, or a car meet.

There's no way I'm taking out a buzzy drone when out on a quiet hike or at a typical campground. Just kills the calmness.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by palata »

vertis wrote: post #202
mk_stjames wrote: post #70

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. I read over their product page and, like always, I'm absolutely amazed that these things exist now and can capture such amazing video and photography at their price point. I'd love to get one to use. But I won't buy one, because every time I go out now to the beach or on a hike, I see people with things like these and I just cannot stand them. I hate the ridiculous noise…

Walked down the edge of canyon in Jasper National Park today and you had to wade through people taking pictures (admittedly, myself among them). What is the difference between someone taking a selfie with a phone and photos at 50 spots along the edge of the canyon, and someone flying a drone at that point?

The phone doesn't make noise, and cannot fly everywhere around in a 2km radius. The phone owner has to walk there. So if you go hiking in places where fewer people go, then you get fewer tourists. Probably you don't want to get drones there (I don't).

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by palata »

greycol wrote: post #197
snoman wrote: post #140

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Are the hikers considered intrusive, or just the drones?

You'll hear plenty of hikers complain about hikers if they are also creating unwanted noise (usually from portable bluetooth speaker).

Even sometimes it's annoying to be near hikers who just speak loudly. Sometimes you just want to be in the nature and enjoy it quietly :-).

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by palata »

oytis wrote: post #82

Having spent the last two years reading news about Russian-Ukrainian war it's pretty refreshing to see how many people still associate DJI drones with peaceful life and entertainment. And seeing a drone flying in the mountains my first thought was about Karabakh.

Genuine question: what kind of smartphone do you think the soldiers use? Do you associate Android/iOS to war? Pretty sure terrorists use Android/iOS, too.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by palata »

brentm wrote: post #74

I always look at these and think I want one but also can't think of what i'd actually use it for. I just picture it sitting in a closet next to my GoPro and Oculus after about 3 days of messing around. Anyone own one? What do you use it for?

I feel the same about the SteamDeck. It's really cool, and I kind of wish I had a use for one. But I don't really play games, so...

If you never really cared about RC planes and don't do photography/videography fairly seriously, I guess you won't suddenly find a new passion in drones.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by bonestamp2 »

sorokod wrote: post #271
baybal2 wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> identified as a national security threat by the US DOD, essentially because there's no way to be sure that every second of GPS-tagged video shot by a DJI drone isn't going into a giant server farm owned by the Chinese intelligence service. There are far more obvious reasons for that. These drones are of enormous military value. By buying them, US consumers are funding an obvious foreign military hardware production…

>US money may well be funding production ... This statement would be correct for any product of Chinese origin - no?

Yes, and these drones would be a drop in the bucket compared to everything else bought from China.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by lrem »

JoBrad wrote: post #194
andersrs wrote: post #188

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I'm not sure if you're joking. Apple's business depends on them bending the rules for China.

I’m not sure how that is any more true for Apple vs Google? Every tech company relies heavily on China for business.

Google has famously made a stand and fussily exited China. Since then its stock underperformed competitors that didn’t.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by WA »

vertis wrote: post #202
mk_stjames wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. I read over their product page and, like always, I'm absolutely amazed that these things exist now and can capture such amazing video and photography at their price point. I'd love to get one to use. But I won't buy one, because every time I go out now to the beach or on a hike, I see people with things like these and I just cannot stand them. I hate the ridiculous noise…

Walked down the edge of canyon in Jasper National Park today and you had to wade through people taking pictures (admittedly, myself among them). What is the difference between someone taking a selfie with a phone and photos at 50 spots along the edge of the canyon, and someone flying a drone at that point?

The noise.
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