Signal president says company will not comply with U.K. ‘mass surveillance’ law

Post by ssss11 » Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 11:07 PM UTC

int_19h wrote: post #233

motohagiography wrote: post #183

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You could have recognized that if you even think you need Tor and Signal to protect yourself from your own government, you need to organize politically to install representatives who ensure you don't think you need those things. We overlook that young people with tech jobs in the 90's humiliated a lot of their peers, ones who went on to pursue messy politcal careers instead of business ones. Those peers learned to ha…

To be blunt, I don't think the majority of the populace actually want those things, or at least don't mind the current state of affairs. And then it doesn't matter how much you politically organize - a superminority in a democracy doesn't get much say either way. OTOH if you evolve the tools, they keep working regardless of what the law says (even if the law specifically prohibits such tools).

Post by dominojab » Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 11:15 PM UTC

semiquaver wrote: post #4

Governments seem to want to have it both ways. As new technologies are introduced they assume that capabilities and practices available to analogous predecessors must remain available to them (e.g. wire-tapping phones => undermining cryptography) but they don’t feel the same way about public benefits or rights associated with other technology that is being replaced (anonymous cash transactions => ???) It also seems l…

Post by kalupa » Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 11:20 PM UTC

phdelightful wrote: post #39

karaterobot wrote: post #21

> “I think what has happened over the you know, handful of decades in which the surveillance business model has interpolated our core infrastructure — to the point that we’re surveilled in to an extent we don’t have a sense of — is that that choice has been made for us,” Whittaker said. This is an honest question: did she mean to say "infiltrated", or is this usage of "interpolated" a valid one that I just don't unde…

Interpolate: to alter or corrupt by inserting foreign matter; but I have only seen it used this way for text

Post by immibis » Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 11:24 PM UTC

Eisenstein wrote: post #168

kelnos wrote: post #154

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I'll start off by saying I don't have a solution. But if I don't have any alternatives, I'd much rather have the "you can't burn wood in your fireplace" people in charge than the "force people to live as the gender assigned at birth" people. One of those people is pushing policy that ultimately saves the human race from making the planet uninhabitable, while the other is imposing their small-minded religious worldvie…

I agree with you on all points. I was straining to think of a good example of the 'left-wing authoritarian' but I have definitely experienced it, and apart the location of birth they are the same exact people who are just as intolerant on right. On aggregate all humans operate pretty much the same everywhere in the way they think and operate -- the only difference is experiences and culture. That was the the point I…

Post by Longlius » Sat, Jul 15, 2023, 11:25 PM UTC