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Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant
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Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant
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Risk is unevenly distributed in corporations, and employees often have more to lose on a personal level
I get your point, but to be precise, it’s more that the impact is greater, because the very nature of being an employee is the willingness to trade supposed and perceived security and ease for the potential of gains.
That makes employment sound like gambling!
Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant
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They should. Not out of charity, but out of labor protection. You take on a worker, you take on a responsibility.
Imposing that on companies by whatever means(legal, social) will lead to less hiring overall to make it low risk. As much as it sucks to get laid off, I am sure a lot of laid off folks who were hired in the last 2 years would be glad that they have Google on their resume. That will set them up for a good career, since Google is known for a rigorous interview process.
So, going through a rigorous interview process is indicative of expected performance on the job? Shouldn’t the work they did for two years matter more than the few hours of interviewing and solving puzzles?
Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant
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The only thing he has done is not destroy the Google cash firehose. The advertising cash firehose is perhaps the only thing that matters at Google. But, having been severely caned by ChatGPT and left flat footed on AI i think it’s reasonable to say even that firehose is now at risk.
It’s really funny to read this over and over from so many people. You are saying google can’t match and surpass chatGPT? You know, google the people who invented the model architecture used by ChatGPT… the people who wrote the first ML training frameworks and the subsequent most popular one… the ones who designed hardware accelerators to minimize training and inference… the people with enough excess compute to probab…
Disruptions like this happen: Sun the main driver of the Web in the 90s, who partnered with Netscape to create JavaScript, who led the workstation industry with the Spark microprocessors, and created Java (at that time a lot of people thought that Java was the future platform to build software, including Steve Jobs)… doesn’t exists anymore.
Execution is more important than being the first. MS and OpenAI did an excellent move, and now Google needs catch up. It doesn’t matter if they invented the model architecture used by ChatGPT, they are not the ones capitalizing it.
Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant
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> Maybe you shouldn’t comment on something you know barely anything about? Very weak counterpoint, essentially ad personam, trying to insinuate my ignorance, telling me to shut up. Not impressive.
Yes, having a counterpoint with a relevant data point that you missed is “weak” you are ignorant, making your argument weak and just plain wrong. Should people no longer point out when comments are really wrong? You’re also over generalizing while being completely incorrect ie making shit up
You don't know if he's ignorant based on his one comment, seems you are also over generalizing, also this comment isn't really ignorant.
He did state issues that are conceptually accurate and generally describe the situation, regardless of whether the number in the yearly salary is a little different, this doesn't change the problem.
Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant
#276Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant
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Getting rid of someone because of a fuck up is amateur leadership (or politics to appease the mob). The relevant question is whether or not a decision was appropriate, given the information and parameters at the time of making the decision. No one is perfect.
If anyone is held to a perfect standard, shouldn’t it be someone making $220 million in a year?
>If anyone is held to a perfect standard
The premise does not make sense to me. See:
>No one is perfect.
Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant
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Literally, nothing good, the chore of Google business is losing ground, Chrome losing more and more users in favor of Edge, Google search taking a hit since OpenAI and Microsoft partnered together to bring AI to search, serial acquisition and sunsetting of products, worse bureaucracy in the whole tech industry, and the list goes on!
Chrome is sitting near all-time highs in market share: https://www.statista.com/statistics/268254/market-share-of-i... . Search hovers around ~90% for the last several years: https://gs.statcounter.com/search-engine-market-share Google Cloud is growing faster than Azure & AWS for the last few years: https://www.statista.com/statistics/967365/worldwide-cloud-i... . Cloud was at ~4% market share 5 years ago, now it's a…
These are weak reasons. They may have been at 90% over the last few years but things are quickly changing.
The fasting growing cloud? 6% in five years after pouring in billions now they need to start charging what it costs. The more unprofitable of the cloud vendors.
Chrome is still the most popular free browser. Not sure that matters as much as it once did.
Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant
#279The world needs more companies structured as worker-owned co-operatives.
The world needs more workers to create these operatives.
Re: Sundar Pichai received $226M compensation, boosted by a triennial stock grant
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Yes, as long as it takes for competitors to build products that are more useful in access to knowledge than Google Search (here GPT + Bing is the most visible threat, but it could be anyone), and that capture your attention better than YouTube (TikTok is the biggest competitor in this space, but again, it could be anyone). Google can't build products, they didn't build anything useful since Search and Docs, so they w…
I agree with you. What people seem to forget is that Google simply did one thing even just marginally better back in the 90s and has been riding that heavy train ever since. All the other stuff, even YouTube is also essentially just dumb luck and a function of that initial success, not to mention that Google was going to shut YouTube down before someone made the case for making it an ad platform, which should have be…
That's a little exaggerated though, Android, Google Maps, Photos, Gmail?