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The Windows 11 Trash Party

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Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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I ran a debloating app on Win11 and I have never ever seen an app, even after countless installs. I am in Europe, so I wonder if there is also a different install here.

Which ones do you recommend?

I used ThisIsWin11, found on github by builtbybel.

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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Windows is my daily driver. I actually like the OS but Microsoft would do well to listen to these concerns being raised consistently. They need to ask some deep questions of themselves of what they want Windows to be. This reminds me of the days where Ballmers goal seemed to be to lock everyone into Windows and MS products when the real upside turned out to be “make MS products fully available where people already ar…

> I actually like the OS

Because it allows you to do stuff that MacOS/Linux won't, or do you actually like it as software, in and of itself?

If the former, that's understandable. If the latter, then may God have mercy on your soul.

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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It is somewhat strange then that enterprise linux is not more common, you get stability and configurability. I mostly put this down to bad salesmanship/C*s tending to be effectively technological cavemen...perhaps there are backroom deals we are not privy to, though.

> It is somewhat strange then that enterprise linux is not more common, you get stability and configurability. Subjectively, I am under the impression that, in the enterprise desktop space, Linux is a more serious competitor to Windows than mac OS is. For example in public administration: At one point the city government of Munich had replaced over 12000 desktops from Windows to Linux [1], and you keep seeing ideas t…

I no longer work there, but back in the early 10s IBM were allowing a lot of management and a few engineers to move to macs.

Their thinkpad business had been spun off, the thinkpad exclusivity contract had run out, and IBM were in a "we already give too much money to MS" mood at the time. No idea how far that went.

They also had a RHEL workstation-based distro you could put on your thinkpad (with a few tens of thousands of users on that IIRC), or if you were particularly adventurous, a 'layer' that could be installed on Ubuntu (that had a few thousand users) or Debian(I was one of 22 people doing that at the time!))

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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post #124

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If containers had been a thing, many of the wild MS ideas of the early 2000s wouldn't have been actually crazy.

They were a thing, on mainframes, micro-computers, and a few selected UNIXes like the (shortly lived) Tru64 and HP-UX. My introduction to containers was HP-UX Vaults.

they were not a thing that commodity hardware, but most importantly the target user, was really prepared to run at the time

same as virtual machines were a thing in the early 70s and client-server in the 80s, but not for the target market despite the industry thought so for some time

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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I say it everywhere windows comes up, but if you're curious about Linux, please try Fedora. Or, if your friend insists it, even Linux Mint.

I'm a long time Linux user, and for the 1st time I've stuck to a version for a long time with Mint. For the 1st time, I found a distro that hadn't a bunch a little glitches and bugs popping out everywhere and that drove me nuts.

Glad to hear it! Mint is definitely a strong pick if your workflow exposes you to a lot of bugs. Love their UI flair as well.

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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In windows XP, microsoft learned their users accepted some abuse,e.g locked theme engine, plastic default theme, DRM. There were complaints, but users took it because where else to go? And to be honest, XP was still an upgrade coming from 98 and 2000 was not available for end users. Vista was an universally loathed disaster, but users took it because where else to go? Windows 7 was better, but still an UI downgrade.…

>Vista was an universally loathed disaster, but users took it because where else to go? Who? "Nobody" used Vista except eg schools. Same with 8 Maybe for me it feels diffetent maybe thats country difference, but the windows migration felt like: xp 7 10 ... 12? People were using xp and 7 as long as they could >In windows XP, microsoft learned their users accepted some abuse,e.g locked theme engine, plastic default the…

Let's give also credit to 8.1 - it was quite usable.

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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post #31

Windows is my daily driver. I actually like the OS but Microsoft would do well to listen to these concerns being raised consistently. They need to ask some deep questions of themselves of what they want Windows to be. This reminds me of the days where Ballmers goal seemed to be to lock everyone into Windows and MS products when the real upside turned out to be “make MS products fully available where people already ar…

>Microsoft would do well

>They need to ask some deep questions of themselves

Are they not doing well though? I see that they are a successful business.

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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> It’s stagnated in many respects You can’t say that with a straight face when the Finder on Mac has seen absolutely zero change since 2008. Windows Vista’s file controls blow every OS out of the water. I’m an Apple user and honestly I don’t remember the last useful feature added other the Universal Clipboard. I asked ChatGPT for a rundown and I just see a list of “moved things around and refreshed the UI”

> Windows Vista’s file controls blow every OS out of the water. KDE's Dolphin File manager can: 1) Split the file window in two with a simple button press. 2) Pressing F4 opens an embedded terminal in the current directory. 3) Provides a super easy way of adding network drives, and a whole view to save them to. 4) Tags for organising files / folders. 5) Pressing space puts it into a super simple "Selection Mode". The…

It's a shame because I remember Konqueror as a file manager being really great under KDE 3.5 (oh the nostalgia) and Dolphin seemed useless by comparison.

Re: The Windows 11 Trash Party

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post #31

Windows is my daily driver. I actually like the OS but Microsoft would do well to listen to these concerns being raised consistently. They need to ask some deep questions of themselves of what they want Windows to be. This reminds me of the days where Ballmers goal seemed to be to lock everyone into Windows and MS products when the real upside turned out to be “make MS products fully available where people already ar…

>Microsoft would do well >They need to ask some deep questions of themselves Are they not doing well though? I see that they are a successful business.

"would do well" does not mean "in order to do well", it's more like cautioning someone on a dangerous path that appears to be fine at a glance.
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