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Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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I don't get it. Why does no government anywhere run a non-profit dating site from tax-payer money when this is becoming the most popular way people are meeting? All the options people have are using toxic apps which entire business model is to undermine the self-esteem of young men and scamming them out of their money. And then people wonder where the mental health problems and mass shootings come from. I really don'…

>Why does no government anywhere run a non-profit dating site from tax-payer money when this is becoming the most popular way people are meeting? Sounds like a great idea. I nominate NSA as the host organization. You wouldn't even need to bother creating a profile, they will just use all the surveillance data to find you the best matches. https://crossdysfunctional.tumblr.com/post/109024982557/fund...

Ha. The NSA or Amazon. Just log in through Amazon SSO and it matches your purchase history against a variety of candidates. Medical purchases excluded for a fee.

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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Dating apps do not work because you are not actually present. You have the attention of hundreds of people at the same time, so unless you decide to meet up right away, the other party immediately loses interest. Most of the people are just looking for sex or something less serious, and the apps heavily paywall males. They are cancer. Meeting through friends is probably the safest, as that at least gives you some saf…

Another big reason why dating apps suck, is that people don't go on dates. People meet their partners in groups of friends of friends, at parties. Before dating apps, nobody would ask a stranger out for a date, and nobody wants to do that now either, so the apps is enabling something that people don't actually want. It should be focused on getting together groups of friends of friends for parties instead.

Personals ads in newspapers have been a thing since forever

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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Whats inconvinient to the pollitically correct narrative is people with 0 scientific literacy making bold claims about society based on surveys on extremely sampled social studies. Doing a study on how "dateable" black women are based on a specific dating app in 2010 is like making claims on everyones eating habits based on a survey on a Burger king drive through. It will probably not be a very good survey. They also…

Why was OP flagged and mass reported? You had a sensible reply but now most can’t even see the discussion. Dang really needs to get this place back on track

It's back now, so I think it shows the system working. Controversial posts like this one used to just die and disappear forever but now with "vouch" option some things deserving come back to life. Not perfect obviously, but on the right track IMHO.

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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I don't get it. Why does no government anywhere run a non-profit dating site from tax-payer money when this is becoming the most popular way people are meeting? All the options people have are using toxic apps which entire business model is to undermine the self-esteem of young men and scamming them out of their money. And then people wonder where the mental health problems and mass shootings come from. I really don'…

Sharing your desires, sexual preference and all intimate conversions with the government doesn't seem like a good idea. You could say they can tap into that currently, and that's probably true, but deliberately broadcasting it to them would probably be out of question for many people. Also, consider what government run IT projects look like. Now mix that with a dating app, perfect recipe for a disaster.

You would always be able to switch to whatever service you like for further messaging, a non-profit the wouldn't care about keeping you on their app. Why would you have intimate conversations on a dating site anyway.

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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Only two industries call their customers "users" (-:

I'm so tired of this line. The reason they're called "users" in tech is because unlike in many industries, they don't pay anything for access to the platform/app. If they all paid, they'd be called "customers". Implying that tech companies and drug dealers are birds of a feather based on this is silly. If you want to say tech companies make addictive products, say that. But don't pretend that calling people "users" i…

> But don't pretend that calling people "users" is evidence in furtherance of this argument.

I didn't. It's a joke. See: (-:

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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only if they are the only dating app around. if not, then having a reputation for actually matching people well will bring more people to the app and generate more revenue than you would ever get from a small amount of desperate customers. Of course, matching people well is hard - so any model that isnt good at that will be better off trying to game their customers and brute force their marketing. (for example, if th…

> Of course, matching people well is hard I thought OKCupid did a great job. The second person I had a conversation with ended up becoming my wife. I really liked how OKCupid had a seemingly never-ending set of personality questions. You could answer none of them, or you could answer 100 of them, and the more you answered, the more confidence it had in its matching. You would even flag the importance of each question…

I found with OKCupid, that the women I scored the highest matches with (like 97 or above) had forgotten to check the "I don't want to see, nor be seen by, straights" checkbox. Two of my exes came out as gay and another 2 probably should have.

> shitty men that send unsolicited dick pics or go ape-shit when they get rejected did.

I'm afraid that's so true.

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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I feel like that's just being human, not a weakness. Thy are exploiting humanities desire to form relationships.

I'm sure you have some vulnerability in your humanity

For sure, the spirit is willing but the flesh is spongy and bruised. But in this case our ability and desire to form attachments is also a strength, I find it funny to be called a weakness.

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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I don't get it. Why does no government anywhere run a non-profit dating site from tax-payer money when this is becoming the most popular way people are meeting? All the options people have are using toxic apps which entire business model is to undermine the self-esteem of young men and scamming them out of their money. And then people wonder where the mental health problems and mass shootings come from. I really don'…

I'm all for a lot of state-sponsored things, but a government run dating site sounds like one of the most dystopian ideas I can imagine. Blaming online dating sites for mental health problems and mass shooting is a new one. I don't discount the feeling of despair that can occur on dating sites for men. However, the experience of a being woman on a dating app is absolutely harrowing, even if you have incredibly low st…

It's always weird to read how government-run XYZ is somehow "dystopian" when we currently already have MassiveUnaccountableCorporation-run XYZ. I'd rather not have either of them run things, but if I had a choice, I'd much rather it be an institution that at least in theory answers to voters, than a meagcorporation that answers only to a set of rich shareholders. Talk about dystopian!

Re: Never pay for online dating (2010)

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The problem really happens when you do algorithmic price setting, which incentivizes you as the developer to get people addicted to the experience of swiping, regardless of whether or not the swiping has the desired outcome for the end user. A user base with just the right levels of dopamine from interactions and loneliness will probably end up buying one of the weekly promotional deals. That's why when you first sta…

Honestly, I wouldn't mind paying $10K for finding someone who actually becomes my life partner, let's say due upon 2 years of stable marriage. In such a system, user incentives would be fully aligned with the business. However -- this would be hard to enforce.

I was thinking the money could be held in escrow. You could only get your money back if you end up marrying someone you didn't meet on the service.
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