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Not really. It's more of a wait and see, "lets hope for the best, but plan for the worst" kind of scenario.
Yes, really! There is no basis. "History" isn't a basis - try it in another context.
Bearing in mind it's not a 100% successful predictor, but is useful for figuring out how things are _likely_ to play out.
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Hi Ryan, nice seeing you here. If you don't mind, would love to hear your thoughts: I’m missing a story about mobile Linux. Has this been discussed; is this something on the roadmap? There are already excellent e-mail options for iOS. Right now there is almost nothing outside of the cli that’s usable on mobile Linux. Thunderbird would have a chance of being the main choice while helping adoption of mobile Linux in th…
Have you tried Geary on mobile Linux? I haven't (no pinephone or similar), so I'm sincerely asking. It works well in a very narrow window on desktop Linux, so that seems hopeful? I wonder if it's excessively memory hungry or syncs mail inefficiently, though.
I bought one a few months ago to support the project but never ended up using it. It's still sitting in a drawer.
Realistically, there's no hope I'll ever do anything with it myself. ;)
Then give an option to link it with the firefox account so as to link the Thunderbird desktop and mobile! Just like it works for firefox now. :mindblown: (Obviously Isolate the email app + calendar portion and the RSS + IRC client part.)
That would be a killer app!
I get skeptical about acquisitions, but from what I can tell this actually seems like decent news. Thunderbird isn't acquiring K-9 to kill it or merge with an additional product, they're buying it so they can increase its development speed and then put their name on it. That seems to me like about the best acquisition goal that they could have -- basically saying, "what exists is good, instead of building our own thi…
People would be wise to look into the incredible amount of criticism thrown at K-9 in the last two years over the recent UI design changes. I personally see this as a way for cketti to get acqui-hired and maybe get away from K-9 Mail. The amount of hate directed towards him from the userbase (mostly justified, sorry to say) has been substantial and I can't imagine he really wants to continue dealing with that. Hopefu…
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P=P is based on K-9 and had a material design UI long before K-9 had it. Postbox is based on Thunderbird with a more modern UI, but its Windows and macOS only (does work in Wine). I stick with FairEmail on Android for now. Its completely FOSS and in active development.
I've seen P=P (or pEp) and even used it, but I've never heard anyone mention it till now. Visually it's clear its a fork of K9, but you can't find any trace of that on their website or repo (it's self hosted). Seems to be no community around it, while it seems a solid choice, especially if you use openpgp. Have you used it?
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> Note that Mozilla has nothing to do with Thunderbird anymore. Mozilla the non-profit owns the for-profit corp who owns Thunderbird. In their own words from the footer of https://www.thunderbird.net : > Thunderbird is now part of MZLA Technologies Corporation, a wholly owned subsidiary of Mozilla Foundation.
... which is in conflict with the Thunderbird FAQ [1]: > Who makes Thunderbird? > Thunderbird is developed, tested, translated and supported largely by group of dedicated volunteers, plus paid staff. Thunderbird is an independent, community driven project. Therefore its paid staff, budget and fundraising are entirely managed and overseen by the Thunderbird Council, which is elected by the Thunderbird Community. Thund…
As an aside, Thunderbird occupies that uncomfortable space of software that is libre, but seems so bloated and complex I don't want to install it, let alone work on it. I'm not sure if that perception is "accurate" (which of course depends on how you define things). But think of OpenOffice/LibreOffice. It's a huge, classically written C++ blob that is hard to check out hard to build and hard to contribute to. Yet, it…
I had the strangest issue with Thunderbird during the last big upgrade, where it took my PGP key out of gpg (deleting the key from the store in the process), and stored it in Thunderbird with no protection. I must have read an encrypted email for it to have used the password, but I have no idea how this happened, and do not click "Yes" on boxes without reading them thoroughly. It took me a month of my PGP key apparen…
Spam is an everyday issue. Every time I use Thunderbird I use "Mark as Junk" and "Delete Mail marked as Junk in Folder".
I created an issue asking for buttons for those often used actions instead of having to go to tools, mark, mark as junk. 3 clicks vs 1 button press. It was closed, essentially saying that I'm just one guy and there is no interest in this. This was 10 or more years ago.
So excuse me if I'm not very enthusiastic about this. I personally tried K9 but opted for Fairemail, even with it being trialware. A proper email client on Android would very much desired.
But then again I would love slypheed or claws. Sylpeed-claws was the best mail client back in the 2000s, much better than Thunderbird imho. We had Gnu/Linux now we have to deal with Android/Linux. Because Google. Why couldn't we just build on Gnu/Linux and have the best "of both worlds", because monetary interests. Bleh.
As a Thunderbird and K-9 user this is 51% good news and 49% possibly bad new. Good news because it should increase the chances that the two products will live a longer life. Possibly bad news because I'm one of the crowd that went back to K-9 5.600 because the new version destroyed the UI that was the primary reason why we picked K-9 over other apps. 100% self selection bias here. There was maybe an ongoing effort to…
FairEmail exists, k-9 was fine when nothing else existed but now we'll get a thunderbird (read: trash) branded version that still doesn't do its one job well.
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People would be wise to look into the incredible amount of criticism thrown at K-9 in the last two years over the recent UI design changes. I personally see this as a way for cketti to get acqui-hired and maybe get away from K-9 Mail. The amount of hate directed towards him from the userbase (mostly justified, sorry to say) has been substantial and I can't imagine he really wants to continue dealing with that. Hopefu…
I don't follow. The guy who presided over K-9 Mail's UX becoming terrible, will help improve the UX of Thunderbird?