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Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Are there people passing laws to fuck with people with bipolar disorder? Are there people telling you that you’re incorrect or even mentally ill because you identify as a recovering alcoholic?

Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder. Wanting something to be different doesn’t actually make it different. https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dyspho...

We live in a country that stigmatizes, under-researches, and under-treats most mental disorders.

Most people who think pointing out "gender disphoria" is a "mental illness" is a good point would be shocked and disappointed when they find out what the standard treatment for patients with gender disphoria is.

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> We let viewers decide what’s appropriate for them, versus having Netflix censor specific artists or voices This is a funny take on it. Of course Netflix censors specific artists and voices by choosing to just not produce their content.

What they mean is they want the selection of content to be done by the people specifically hired and empowered to select content, using the official channels created specifically for this selection process. What they don't want is mobs of workers lower on the totem pole trying to impose their will on management through walkouts/etc.

> What they don't want is mobs of workers lower on the totem pole trying to impose their will on management through walkouts/etc.

The horror lol.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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I can't help but feel this is aimed at trans activists who protested the Chappelle special. I think he went too far at a couple places, but that's what comedians do. I don't think it's transphobic to push back on trans activists. I have problematic issues (bipolar, recovering alcoholic) but I don't go around demanding the world accommodate me and calling people who won't listen to me haters.

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Comedians make fun of everything and everyone. My opinion is that if you're a "marginalized group" you should be delighted to be make fun of like everyone else.

Would you prefer to be ignored?

I don't know why "humour is not punching down" keeps being repeated recently but that's idiotic. Comedy punches in all directions.

The real problem of the Dave Chappelle special is not that it was transphobic, it was that it was not really funny.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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propaganda for which side?

Clearly it's propaganda for the non-trans majority that are not comfortable with trans people. Just like trans people came up with their 'cis people' propaganda to deal with their uncomfortableness with non-trans people. An eye for an eye makes the world blind...

How would you feel about your first statement of the word 'trans' were replaced with Black, gay, Catholic or really any other protected class?

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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I actually think that Cuties was widely mischaracterised as a movie by people who didn't watch it and just reacted to what they thought the content of the movie was. It's actually a good thoughtful coming of age movie that talks about important topics and actually criticises the culture of hypersexualisation of young girls.

would you be fine with a movie criticizing child pornography, but ending up doing a little bit of CP (fake, of course, but still CP)? I guess the parent is making a similar comparison. I am not that enraged by this, but I haven't watched the movie. I am very weary of any "think of the kids" outrage, it's usually bullshit...except the LGBTQ indoctrination at a young age, that is real. We ended up having 21% of young p…

> I am very weary of any "think of the kids" outrage, it's usually bullshit...except the LGBTQ indoctrination at a young age, that is real

That is probably one of the most obviously not real moral panics you could possibly fall for.

> You can't convince me that this is the base rate and up until now 1 in 5 people were LGBTQ but were just afraid of coming out.

Why not? They use to not tell anyone because they were afraid of being murdered, that seems like the most obvious explanation, application of occams razor, etc..

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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What they mean is they want the selection of content to be done by the people specifically hired and empowered to select content, using the official channels created specifically for this selection process. What they don't want is mobs of workers lower on the totem pole trying to impose their will on management through walkouts/etc.

I broadly agree that some people, mostly on more extreme ends of the political spectrum, are trying to censor views they disagree with in a way that is potentially dangerous for a free society. However, I strongly believe that every employee of a company (and every shareholder) carries a small amount of the moral culpability for their company's actions. To purposefully choose an extreme example, would you be willing…

Very well put. We each have some small effect on the world and we should stay mindful of it. Especially with the amount of power a corporation (read large group of people) can have on the world.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Their core demographic is offended though.

I'm not offended by their content, I just think the quality declined faster than they've raised prices. That's why I cancelled. Most of their original content is about as exciting and predictable as talking to a GPT-3 bot.

Yeah, I'm getting pretty close. I use it barely enough to justify the cost. We'll see after Russian doll season 2

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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The sibling comment actually does a pretty good job articulating why we as trans people (surprise! I’m one of them) receive the reactions we do. It’s a fundamental disgust at the concept of a trans person existing, full stop. In an ideal world for these people, we simply would not exist. We challenge their expectations by asking to be addressed in a way that goes against their ideas of what gender, at its core, means…

> We challenge their expectations by asking to be addressed in a way that goes against their ideas of what gender, at its core, means to them. Nope, you're asking for a special treatment in an environment where 99.9% of people don't care how you want to be called. Not because they hate you -- it's because they're not there to fight for your rights. My name has at least 12 different ways to be pronounced in my country…

> Nope, you're asking for a special treatment in an environment where 99.9% of people don't care how you want to be called. Not because they hate you -- it's because they're not there to fight for your rights.

You are framing this as "special treatment" precisely because of your ideas of what gender means to you. Honestly, I empathize hard with what you describe as "pissing into the wind." I'm misgendered on a daily basis -- if I spent every ounce of energy I had correcting people, I'd end each day exhausted. More often than not, I don't push back, usually because it's a service worker who's forced to be deferential as part of their job ("sir"/"ma'am"/etc). I don't begrudge that kind of attempt at politeness. Even outside that, it's never a huge deal in isolation, but it adds up, because I have to do a little bit of mental calculus each time: is this person going to make a whole thing about it or go "my bad" and move on? do I have the energy to bring it up? are they trying to be rude or is it an honest mistake? etc. In professional and personal circles, I'm generally more likely to correct people, because I'm signalling a way to be polite to me, and I've been polite to them, and it's how we establish mutual respect, not "special treatment."

Usually, when people get frustrated at misgendering, it's because a person is ignoring really obvious tells about how a person wants to be addressed (clothing, etc.) in favor of their own personal philosophy about what being "right" means. In the exact same way, for example, you might feel frustrated if someone intentionally decided to use a semi-mocking pronunciation of your name. In both cases, it signals that a person has decided to be cruel to you for petty and unknowable reasons.

I guess my big takeaway is that you deserve as much dignity and respect in the way people pronounce your name as I do for my pronouns, and I hope you can find some understanding/empathy in the parallels between our experiences.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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I mean, fair enough, we can set the law aside. Again, my point is that trans people are not complaining about "people saying negative things" in a vacuum. They are complaining about a specific situation that is happening which goes beyond just the context of the Chapelle special. I don't believe you are actually responding to the most common trans critique of Chapelle and, in not doing that, you dismiss the actual cr…

So...assume the most extreme views are correct and start forming our own personal thoughts based on this assumption. Just in case they do turn out to be correct. I'm just not buying that. Side note: I have yet to see a satisfying definition for this sense of the word "erasing". As best I can tell, it's just an emphatic way of saying "disagreeing with a position of personal importance to X".

If you want to see the TERF mindset, and I recognize that the word is thrown around too easily, check out Lily Cade’s speech against trans people. It does advocate for violence.

There are also very real statistics and accounts of violence against trans people. The numbers are shy in comparison to COVID deaths, but you have to account for the number of people who do transition and do not hide it.

Is this priority #1 in the world? No. But we could all show some more god damned humanity to people.

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