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Ask HN: I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that?

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Re: Ask HN: I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that?

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So you're working in bio but yearning for IT? I'm almost the opposite. IT pays the bills, but I wish I was in evolutionary biology.

Evolutionary biology as a profession is probably difficult to be a bill payer, it's afaik exclusively an academic exercise. Sure they need IT people (for bioinformatics, genome informatics, data science, etc) but you are almost 100% certain to be entering the academic "rat race". Which can be nice, if you're into it. You could make a start by offering your IT skills to an evolutionary biology professor? Why not invit…

Thanks for the thoughtful response! But I'm actually not interested in the computational side of biology, it might be a way in but I really don't find IT interesting, it just happen to be very lucrative, so as soon as I can I want to escape.

Academia is where I want to end up actually, planning to pivot when I can afford it. Not too far off now!

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> I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that? > From psychology to history of science to anthropology and sociology, to economics and politics, to philosophy and religious studies and cultural studies, etc. You guys may consider my comment as begging for down-votes but why to chose so lowball content only? Among the disciplines the topicstarter has chosen there is only one which may be awarded…

I wrote a general comment in response to this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30930012

Re: Ask HN: I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that?

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Just as an example, if you look at tech job postings you'll see that they almost all want someone who is an expert - mostly senior level, have a core tech listed in the title (eg Senior React Engineer at Company X). I rarely see any truly general roles posted. People want "T" or Pi shaped devs, nobody wants a "-" shaped dev. As a dev with 10 years experience and a masters who has not been allowed to specialize due to…

Being a generalist is beneficial in freelancing, since it gives you demonstrated skill in lots of areas. The more areas, the more projects you "qualify" for, since clients want assurance that you can jump right in and be productive. (Also, "getting up to speed quickly in a new language/codebase/whatever" is a useful skill in freelancing, since that is a clear need) I think people hiring employees frequently don't rea…

You've made the strongest case I've seen for some knowledge flexibility by bringing up tech freelancing, but this generalization is still ensconced in tech specialism. The last two posts have lost sight of the bigger picture.

The conversation began with the OP talking about wide cross-disciplinary pursuits.

"A couple of years back I started dabbling in the social sciences and humanities (my background is in ecology / evolutionary biology), and became interested in one discipline after another. From psychology to history of science to anthropology and sociology, to economics and politics, to philosophy and religious studies and cultural studies, etc."

My post was a reply to a response to "Refuse to Choose" and the concept of a "Scanner", someone who is looking at many different disciplines that do not all immediately relate to one another.

And my original post was to the effect of "Yes, being a scanner is a weakness if you can't synthesize your cross disciplinary knowledge into extremely valuable non-obvious insights and/or awe-inspiring products".

Basically, think of ideas as being distanced apart from each other. Some of them are in your head, others in mine, some are in a book, or a movie. If we are specialists working together on a project, then to access and synthesize ideas that exist in both our heads we need to have a meeting, which takes significant time. To access it from media, we're going to need to consume media and study, which takes even more time. A helpful analogy would be the memory hierarchy if you know a bit about computer architecture.

But, if many different ideas exist already, only in one person's head, no meetings are needed. They can just work, synthesizing as they go. That is where the "Scanner" emerges from their cocoon and inverts what has been up to then a weakness sapping the ability to excel in one field, instead becoming what one might call "A Renaissance Man".

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I feel your pain. I've made multiple websites that are designed as broad-based solutions to things I observe. It can be a bit frustrating finding a specific interest to dive into. At least in my life, I've discovered that it's important to NOT identify with your interests. While this is a generally important rule, broad interests are toxic to the psyche if you declare your worth by them, since the implementation will…

This should be a blog post at this point. This was super helpful. Thank you!!!

Re: Ask HN: I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that?

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OP here, the second of my general response, to these types of comments: > I just want to mention here that "swimming in ideas" does not equal understanding. > How do you know you are really moving anywhere but not standing? > OP wants to read "textbooks to learn basic concepts" and "swim in their ideas". That doesn't equal competence. > The reading/learning you are doing is entertainment. It's not that much better th…

I posted above before I'd read this -- I'd really stress again that, at least in the humanities, writing is the difference between mere 'accumulation of knowledge', which we all know will eventually be forgotten, and understanding. I would actually recommend Umberto Eco's book How to Write a Thesis as a great foundation for how to structure your cross-disciplinary studies and synthesize, again even if just for yourse…

Thanks so much for your comments! Super helpful!

One question: what sort of things do you think I could write as a novice in these fields?? I don't think I'm interested in writing study notes or summaries etc. I think I'm more inquiry-inclined, something more critical, more engaged.

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I was going to suggest writing, and I'll go one further: Do write a blog, but don't just write a blog. Write a blog, and then create a video for each blog post, and upload it to YouTube (where the eyeballs willing to consume intellectual material are). Also do livestreams. Start interviewing anyone who will take you seriously. Set a goal for who your dream interviewee is. Do this for a couple years, putting out conte…

Another question, if you don't mind: What sort of things do you think I could write as a novice in these fields?? I don't think I'm interested in writing study notes or summaries etc. I think I'm more inquiry-inclined, something more critical, more engaged.

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How did you read my mind? I've thought of most of these things and thought I was completely crazy dreaming. I absolutely want to interview people, dig their brains, hear their stories, etc.! This reminds me of how I used to go to my profs office hours because I just loved hearing them talk passionately about their subjects. A question, livestream of what?

Dig into intellectual / political Twitch. One guy I've paid attention to is Hal Sparks, a comedian/TV personality turned webby political analyst. He just reads a bunch of stuff and then does a livestream talking about current events and connecting them with what he's read (plus jokes). There's also a lot of reacting to YouTubers' video essays and the news. Bullet points for livestreaming subject matter: * Reacting to…

Thanks so much for all these! So eye-opening!

Re: Ask HN: I'm interested in so many disciplines, but what can I do with that?

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Very insightful comment. Would you mind to explain why you disagree?

Because every single statement is wrong. > In the US, the thought is that if you're doing a PhD, say, it's a full-time professionalized pursuit You're still a student, still taking classes. > under the assumption you will be a professor; Simply not true, you could pursue all sorts of jobs. > in the rest of the world Do I really need to comment that? Hint: outside the US border, there is more than one country. Germany…

I read your post in good faith and respond in kind. There are certainly very important details I did not elaborate in a quick post, but I assume you understand that the question under consideration is how someone pursuing a full-time career might partake in (non-STEM) higher academic degrees. While I regret using the expression “rest of the world”, I don’t believe it’s just hyperbole to say that this is easier in Europe.

You are correct that people pursue different paths after US PhDs. However, as you say, a US PhD contains heavy course work and (outside STEM, where I have few data points since most researchers I knew dropped out to work for startups/FAANG) the average full-time program duration is only going up. There are exceptions of course, but admissions are centered around a personal scholarly narrative rather than a particular project and pricing is generally under the expectation of grant funding. Again, there are further details we could write books about, but I don’t think this is far from a general picture of US PhDs in the humanities and social sciences.

In Europe, MAs and PhDs are separated as many have noted. I know most about the UK context, where MAs are affordable and can be taken part-time, completed in two years with one class a semester. PhDs, which are research only (I agree with the you and would indeed change “writing” to “research” if I wrote the post again), can also be done part-time over eight years for a very nominal cost (about 5k a year for an international student). Systems have become more standardized in the EU after the Bologna accords towards the more professionalized three year track, but I’ve known PhD students in Germany to take 10+ years writing their dissertations. Unless policies have changed in the past few years, the same goes for France.

Again, comparing post-graduate education between US and EU, let alone between EU countries, is a complex topic. I have attempted only to show that there is a substantial regional difference and that, at least outside STEM, the EU system is more accessible for those with full-time careers, who do not plan to work in academia.

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