This would seem like the right thing to do, but apparently it isn't. I have a feeling that sometime in the future, we will look back at this as an oppertunitly where we could have stopped Russia.
Russian forces invade Ukraine after Putin orders attack
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Stay safe, brother, my thoughts and prayers are with you. I'm Russian and wholeheartedly despise this outrageous war crime act of our so-called government.
Hi Russian friends. Good to see you here and good to read your view. You might see me se me support Ukraine or be angry about Russia, but rest assured that I have nothing against Russians as a people, only the ones who tries to invade Ukraine etc. I'm living in the shadow of Russia too and I've just filled my spare water tanks with clean water and I'll fill my car and get some extra fuel for my cooking stove later to…
I nearly teared up reading the news this morning. Stay safe.
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nobody is helping ukraine with any military so far. nor NATO nor any other allies. it is sad, but whole ukraine can fall within days.
> but whole ukraine can fall within days I'd be very surprised if this extends too far past separatists territories.
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Ukraine joining Nato is akin to the Cuban missile crisis. Nato is WW3 in the making. It's an idiotic pact that agrees if Russia does anything deemed hostile, they all have to declare war. It's the same stupid type of pact that caused ww1 & ww2. The people pushing it want war with Russia. It will only benefit fat cat oligarchs. You will pay the taxes and you will be doing the dying.
Even if that were true, it doesn't justify annexing a country and erasing a nation.
It's interesting how this kind of language now suddenly starts emerging, wonder how long until everybody will be talking about "genocide".
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Even if it's possible, for Apple, it would be an utterly disastrous thing to do. Imagine the damage to its reputation. If they were to do it in this situation, the argument would go, what about other situations? What about all the phones they sell in China, for example. Are there circumstances where they should brick all US Democrat or Republican phones? It would be the end of Apple, and that's why it would (hopefull…
why does everyone go for these slippery slope type arguments all the time. you dont need to worry about hypotheticals.
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Russians (some of them, to clarify) associate the current Ukrainian regime with Nazism/fascism. After all, far right groups were a major part of the 2014 revolution/putsch. https://crimethinc.com/2022/02/15/war-and-anarchists-anti-au... (note: the disinformation section is especially relevant)
Why are you saying that? Not all Russians are brainwashed by state propaganda. I think very few Russians who read Hackernews actually support what is going on right now, if any. To be honest, me and all of the people around me thought that this is too crazy to happen, but here we are.
> What I mean is – well, take creationists. According to Gallup polls, about 46% of Americans are creationists. Not just in the sense of believing God helped guide evolution. I mean they think evolution is a vile atheist lie and God created humans exactly as they exist right now. That’s half the country.
> And I don’t have a single one of those people in my social circle. It’s not because I’m deliberately avoiding them; I’m pretty live-and-let-live politically, I wouldn’t ostracize someone just for some weird beliefs. And yet, even though I probably know about a hundred fifty people, I am pretty confident that not one of them is creationist. Odds of this happening by chance? 1/2^150 = 1/10^45 = approximately the chance of picking a particular atom if you are randomly selecting among all the atoms on Earth.
You could live in a circle that unanimously opposes the war, and still be in a country that's 60% for it.
Thing is, given the propaganda machine in Russia and the lack of free (even non-guvernamental) organizations we can't really tell if that percentage is 6% or 60%.
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Nuclear proliferation, like it or not, has done more for global peace than US military/trade hegemony. Ukraine gave up all its nukes in the 90s which is why this is happening now.
Ukraine never had the codes to use those nukes. They didn't give up a functioning deterrent.
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Nuclear proliferation, like it or not, has done more for global peace than US military/trade hegemony. Ukraine gave up all its nukes in the 90s which is why this is happening now.
I'm not convinced. Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Sudan, Rwanda, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan again, Syria, Peru, Mali, ... When you say "world peace", do you mean European peace? California peace? Where is your world?
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Nuclear proliferation, like it or not, has done more for global peace than US military/trade hegemony. Ukraine gave up all its nukes in the 90s which is why this is happening now.
Libya was invaded after giving up nuclear in 2003. Clinton pushed for the invasion as Secretary of State, then she joked about the death on TV. https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2017/11/27/clinton-po... It should not be a surprise that North Korea refuses to disarm.