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YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Lol Streisand effect Have no idea what this Brandon song was about. Watched it couldn’t understand lyrics. 2 weeks later it’s on HN. Read comments, people saying it should be banned. Saying it should be number 1 - that it was - but now is 23 and shadow banned. Don’t believe a word. Someone posts lyrics saying pandemic was planned and not real “or serious” Realise it’s a political Comment. Suddenly understand all the…

Streisand effect with a dab of weaponized autism.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Just to provide context "NIH admits Fauci lied about funding Wuhan gain-of-function experiments" [1] If there's no one even making art with borderline lyrics, nobody may realize there's something besides the status quo. I'm not saying that I agree with all dissidents opinions, but I strongly disagree with messing with art. It's music for god's sake. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28972283

This "art" is not being produced in a vacuum. YouTube is fighting a problem with disinformation that has significant implications on a public health crisis. I don't see why they should respond any differently, simply because someone is singing the disinformation.

I would welcome a national separation if it means that people who think like you are on the other side of the border. This is pitiable logic.

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Silencing people and pretending it’s OK is not going to work. It’s a double edge sword. Because one day they’re going to silence you. The math doesn’t work out long term.

Deplatforming isn't the same as silencing. At no point in history before the 21st century did the average person think that they had a right to have their speech carried to the entire human race. We have a basic right to generally not be prevented from speaking, yes. (A right which does not extend to defamation, fraud, violent threats and other grossly harmful things) But have we ever had a basic human right to oblig…

"Deplatforming" is just a roundabout way of saying "you're not welcome here because we don't agree with your speech".

YouTube's criteria of what is and is not harmful is the issue.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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You draw the line when you have a monopoly company with a trillion dollar market cap.

Just create and apply better anti-trust laws and break up the monopolies. (Specially since most platforms got their almost monopolies by creating anti-competitive walled gardens with no inter-operation with other similar platforms a la Fediverse / ActivityPub / Diaspora / Friendica) Or better yet, promote counter-anti-desintermediation: https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Counter-Anti-Disintermediatio... > The idea of dis…

Trillion dollar company won't allow better antitrust laws to happen, because they are allied with the currently ruling party.

This is a true symbiosis: the Party will see that no laws that harm the Company are passed, and Company will stop the spread of any information harmful to the Party.

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You really need this help, champ? > Biden said the jab stop the spread, it was lies (I remember) That's medical disinformation.

No, you're wrong. Vaccinations slow the spread, they don't stop them.

I'm sorry you struggle this way with casual english

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Flagged for some reason, so I will post it again: Are you implying that the pandemic is over?

The quote is calling the statement "the vaccine will stop the spread of covid" a lie. That statement can be a lie only if the vaccine can not stop the spread. An overly optimistic prediction wouldn't be a lie, so the quote must be calling the vaccine ineffective at best. Regardless of whether the pandemic is over or not, the statement isn't a lie and therefore the quote is incorrect. The vaccine significantly slows t…

If this is the standard that we go by, are other lyricists literally commanding me to rob banks and abuse women?

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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I'm not much of a modern rap music person, however, by the 90s rap standards this doesn't seem that inflammatory.

Exactly what I thought. I disagree with the video and lyrics, but there's bigger rappers that have been peddling conspiratorial, third eye awakening wish-wash for at least 20 years. This is a weird video to target, and I feel like there's bigger fish to fry w.r.t. harmful misinformation edit: about COVID. Mostly that the most dangerous misinformation is that which can actually convince people to believe untruths, som…

"This is a weird video to target, and I feel like there's bigger fish to fry w.r.t. harmful misinformation."

How about I listen to what I like and you fry your fish elsewhere?

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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> YouTube has no obligation to be a champion of free speech. Unless we decide that they do, notwithstanding your declaration. I understand that you like censorship that you agree with, so it would probably be better to ask you about this when they start censoring things that state legislatures interpret as "critical race theory," or for claiming that a government official is being dishonest.

>Unless we decide that they do, notwithstanding your declaration. No, they're a private company. "We" don't get to decide what their obligations are.

Oh yes we do. We are the People. Legislation for social media is eventually going to happen.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Just create and apply better anti-trust laws and break up the monopolies. (Specially since most platforms got their almost monopolies by creating anti-competitive walled gardens with no inter-operation with other similar platforms a la Fediverse / ActivityPub / Diaspora / Friendica) Or better yet, promote counter-anti-desintermediation: https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Counter-Anti-Disintermediatio... > The idea of dis…

Trillion dollar company won't allow better antitrust laws to happen, because they are allied with the currently ruling party. This is a true symbiosis: the Party will see that no laws that harm the Company are passed, and Company will stop the spread of any information harmful to the Party.

> This is a true symbiosis: the Party will see that no laws that harm the Company are passed, and Company will stop the spread of any information harmful to the Party.

Probably no relation with the 2014 Princeton study published on the Cambridge University Press that determined the United States of America to be an Oligarchy rather than a Democracy.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-poli...

> But we believe that if policymaking is dominated by powerful business organizations and a small number of affluent Americans, then America’s claims to being a democratic society are seriously threatened

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