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An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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ocbyc wrote: post #171
lukevp wrote: post #65

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One of the reasons iOS feels smoother than Android is because the render loop of the OS is decoupled from the app. The apps aren’t allowed to introduce jank, so if you’re scrolling a webpage and stuff is loading simultaneously, iOS will be way smoother. I think this is also why they can have such low latency on inputs, for example with the Apple Pencil which is much lower latency than the surface pen or the android s…

I'm sorry, I have an Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra with 120mhz. Using my girlfriends iPhone 12 makes me dizzy. 120hz is something you don't notice much when you enable it, but you definitely notice when it's gone.

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Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by SilverRed »

croes wrote: post #247
zachberger wrote: post #220

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And that's only on the laptops. Two monitors are supported on the Mac Mini.

That is nevertheless only two screens.

>only two screens

Honestly I feel like multi monitor setups are actually worse than single monitor. Having to bend your neck to use some of your windows left me with neck pain. Now I only use one large monitor and use the workspace switching shortcuts to move everything around so I only look forwards.

My productivity is identical and my neck feels better. I'd only say its worth it for when you really do need to see a huge amount at once like watching the feeds of 30 security cameras. Not for general work/programming.

Seems like multi monitor setups become more of a looks thing because they make people feel like they are sitting in the FBI command center rather than a generic office worker desk.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by jacurtis »

SpelingBeeChamp wrote: post #253
tbrock wrote: post #241

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I dont understand why they sell the pro. The touchbar is rubbish and the air has 99% the same performance. Yeah the pro can go faster for longer without throttle but its heavier and doesnt have those physical f-keys. Its more expensive too… not sure why anyone would buy it over the air. Two more usb-c but you can only hook in one external monitor! Also 200 more nits on screen but… is it really that important? I cant…

Obviously, to people who choose to pay for it. I produce video news and the Touch Bar is integral to my workflow. Just because something is not useful to you doesn’t mean it’s useless.

Yep we share the same unpopular opinion. I really like the Touch Bar.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by SilverRed »

seanalexander wrote: post #193
jmkni wrote: post #25

Pre M1, I've always preferred a PC. When I'm using a laptop, especially doing real work, they heat up, the fans go crazy, the laptop is hot to the touch and everything slows down. It almost makes you anxious. You're wondering if it's about to crash or go on fire. I've always kept a Desktop PC on the go for this reason, a well cooled desktop just doesn't have these issues. With a laptop, I always feel like I'm comprom…

I'm eager to see what can be done with the desktop tower workstation post-M1. I don't think anyone actually wants to have a slim laptop and use "the cloud" to "download more memory" but here we are in 2021 where people are saying 16gb max ram is good.

>but here we are in 2021 where people are saying 16gb max ram is good.

No amount of memory will be good. The problem is not memory but inefficient programming. Desktop apps consume as much memory as possible. The only way to have a good experience is to have more memory than the average user. But then the average user catches up and you need even more memory.

Right now I have ms teams running in the background purely to receive notifications and it is using over 1GB of memory and 8% of my cpu to show me a notification window when I get a message. MS teams on my 3gb ram iphone does exactly the same job and uses no memory and no power because it doesn't even have to run to show me notifications.

I have 32GB on my laptop and I am only just above the average now but in a few years electron will have ballooned so far that 64 is the new minimum. While my 3gb iphone and 8gb ipad feel more than enough.

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Post by baggy_trough »

SilverRed wrote: post #270
SpelingBeeChamp wrote: post #253

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Obviously, to people who choose to pay for it. I produce video news and the Touch Bar is integral to my workflow. Just because something is not useful to you doesn’t mean it’s useless.

The touch bar should have been in addition to the function row really. On the 16" mac there is plenty of space for both. Few people hate the touch bar, they hate the lack of function keys.

I hate it because it’s too easy to accidentally press a “key” and trigger some potentially large scale event.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by breck »

tbrock wrote: post #241
jmkni wrote: post #25

Pre M1, I've always preferred a PC. When I'm using a laptop, especially doing real work, they heat up, the fans go crazy, the laptop is hot to the touch and everything slows down. It almost makes you anxious. You're wondering if it's about to crash or go on fire. I've always kept a Desktop PC on the go for this reason, a well cooled desktop just doesn't have these issues. With a laptop, I always feel like I'm comprom…

I dont understand why they sell the pro. The touchbar is rubbish and the air has 99% the same performance. Yeah the pro can go faster for longer without throttle but its heavier and doesnt have those physical f-keys. Its more expensive too… not sure why anyone would buy it over the air. Two more usb-c but you can only hook in one external monitor! Also 200 more nits on screen but… is it really that important? I cant…

I used Macbook Airs for 10 years. Had a week with a loaner machine which happened to be an MBP with TouchBar and I found it neat, and so ended up getting an M1 with TouchBar. I like it. I so rarely use the F keys that it's kind of nice to have sliders, emojis, mute button, et cetera up there. I almost certainly could live without it, but I used to hate on it and now at least opted for it.

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Post by adrusi »

yoz-y wrote: post #78
pasc1878 wrote: post #68

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Because the fan will continue for some time after the compile finishes. So you can do work before the fan stoos

Depending on the cooling solution the temperature can drop like a brick. On my desktop I can go 75deg to dead silent in about three seconds.

And laptop heatsinks have less thermal mass

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Post by SilverRed »

enlyth wrote: post #50
jmkni wrote: post #25

Pre M1, I've always preferred a PC. When I'm using a laptop, especially doing real work, they heat up, the fans go crazy, the laptop is hot to the touch and everything slows down. It almost makes you anxious. You're wondering if it's about to crash or go on fire. I've always kept a Desktop PC on the go for this reason, a well cooled desktop just doesn't have these issues. With a laptop, I always feel like I'm comprom…

A bit of a tangent but I am quite impressed how Apple's marketing campaign was so effective that they've managed to redefine what PC (personal computer) means

What is your definition of PC? There are about 20 definitions in regular usage.

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Post by SilverRed »

forrestthewoods wrote: post #148
jmkni wrote: post #25

Pre M1, I've always preferred a PC. When I'm using a laptop, especially doing real work, they heat up, the fans go crazy, the laptop is hot to the touch and everything slows down. It almost makes you anxious. You're wondering if it's about to crash or go on fire. I've always kept a Desktop PC on the go for this reason, a well cooled desktop just doesn't have these issues. With a laptop, I always feel like I'm comprom…

Same. The problem is now my work desktop is a 32-core Threadripper w/ huge GPU and way too much ram. It’s kinda nice knowing that if my computer ever slows down it’s because of bad programming and not having a too slow computer. I want to like laptops. I really really do. But they’re slower, have bad keyboards, and have tiny screens. Or I’m docked and the fact that it’s a laptop isn’t meaningful. That said, I can’t f…

>It’s kinda nice knowing that if my computer ever slows down it’s because of bad programming and not having a too slow computer.

And then someone with 4 cores tries to run the code and its unusable because it only runs well with 32 cores.

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Post by mthoms »

rsfinn wrote: post #266
rbanffy wrote: post #75

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I like my 15” MBP, but the fans are extremely annoying. I had to switch IntelliJ to power save mode so I can hear what I’m thinking. It’s quite surreal the big Xeon server (an actual server, with optional rackmounts) with lots of spinning rust under the desk is still much less distracting.

You might want to look into [Turbo Boost Switch]( http://tbswitcher.rugarciap.com ), which in my experience does a pretty good job of keeping the CPU cool enough that the fans stay pretty quiet, with a minor impact on performance. (It's easy to turn it on and off from the menu bar, in case you need to turn the knob up to 11 and are willing to hear the fans again.)

This worked well for me also.
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