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An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by Shorel »

enlyth wrote: post #50
jmkni wrote: post #25

Pre M1, I've always preferred a PC. When I'm using a laptop, especially doing real work, they heat up, the fans go crazy, the laptop is hot to the touch and everything slows down. It almost makes you anxious. You're wondering if it's about to crash or go on fire. I've always kept a Desktop PC on the go for this reason, a well cooled desktop just doesn't have these issues. With a laptop, I always feel like I'm comprom…

A bit of a tangent but I am quite impressed how Apple's marketing campaign was so effective that they've managed to redefine what PC (personal computer) means

By being actual PC compatible hardware for about a decade.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by mirekrusin »

stephencanon wrote: post #39
jheriko wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

jesus wept. are your builds that slow, or your inability to add notifications that real? not sure if programmer, or just troll...

The fan _was_ their notification. Why would they have wasted time adding another?

  ./build && say "done"

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by lukevp »

hirako2000 wrote: post #49
dstick wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> plus a couple of Electron apps I’m afraid that might be your problem right there :(

I confirm. Embedded nodes each take a few hundreds of megabyte. It looked cool when we had 2 electron apps out there, now with so many of them good by ram.not mentioning apps developed in a few months rather than years, packed with features to become more memory hungry than the OS. MS Team is a particular offender.

Evergreen webviews baked into the OS are the next frontier of desktop app development. They can share a renderer and have much lower memory usage per app as a result - see the changes in Windows 11. Couple that with a lighter weight desktop compatibility shim to break out of the sandbox conditionally (like Tauri does in Rust) and this architecture can be totally fine. The issue isn’t the concept of using web technologies, it’s just the current implementation that was needed to make everything work on our existing platforms.

Mac will be a holdout because they heart native but hopefully will concede at some point because more and more people are going to deploy apps this way from here on out. It’s not worth it to employ native app developers for each platform except for the largest of the large companies.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by rbanffy »

rambambram wrote: post #36
jmkni wrote: post #25

Pre M1, I've always preferred a PC. When I'm using a laptop, especially doing real work, they heat up, the fans go crazy, the laptop is hot to the touch and everything slows down. It almost makes you anxious. You're wondering if it's about to crash or go on fire. I've always kept a Desktop PC on the go for this reason, a well cooled desktop just doesn't have these issues. With a laptop, I always feel like I'm comprom…

Must be nice, using a fresh machine that's so silent. I recently switched from a powerful desktop PC with noisy fans to a passively cooled RPi4 running Ubuntu Mate. I just feel my productivity and focus going up now I don't hear the equivalent of a small fighter jet taking off. The RPi4 is still a fighter though, very quick and powerful for it's size, price and specs.

I like my 15” MBP, but the fans are extremely annoying. I had to switch IntelliJ to power save mode so I can hear what I’m thinking.

It’s quite surreal the big Xeon server (an actual server, with optional rackmounts) with lots of spinning rust under the desk is still much less distracting.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by Shorel »

hackathonguy wrote: post #32

Wondering if it's just me: I bought an M1 MacBook Air with 8GB of RAM, based on reports saying that RAM management is much more effective than with Intel CPUs. Ever since, I'm really struggling with load management. I typically have Chrome open with 20-30 tabs, plus a couple of Electron apps (Notion, Slack, Google Calendar), and my MacBook frequently slows down to a crawl or gets stuck entirely. Simple commands - "cl…

Want to use "apps" that run in a browser. Then just open them in a browser.

That's what I do with Teams, Discord and so on.

Much better than opening many isolated browser runtimes for what's essentially badly optimized webpages.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by yoz-y »

pasc1878 wrote: post #68
stephencanon wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fan _was_ their notification. Why would they have wasted time adding another?

Because the fan will continue for some time after the compile finishes. So you can do work before the fan stoos

Depending on the cooling solution the temperature can drop like a brick. On my desktop I can go 75deg to dead silent in about three seconds.

Re: An app for M1 Macs that plays the sound of a fan as CPU usage goes up

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Post by bsharitt »

Outside of work provided computers, I've not been a Mac user for many years, but the M1 Macbook Air brought me back and it's been great. It's basically the laptop I've been waiting years for, silent with no moving parts and very little in the way of compromises(I don't personally have any need for super long running CPU intensive tasks). It's weird to see it compile code or encode video without fans ramping up, and even if does start to throttle toward the end of the longer tasks, it still beats my fairly recent i7 work MacBook Pro and my Ryzen 7 4700U Windows laptop most of the time.
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