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A dwarf planet coming within 11 AU of the sun over the next 10 years

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Re: A dwarf planet coming within 11 AU of the sun over the next 10 years

#271

Ok. I got really excited by the title. But the diameter of the planet is about 130 km, so its tiny. Maybe "fat asteroid" is a better term than "dwarf planet" ?

I don't think we should be shaming asteroids in this way - how about "gravitationally challenged"?

Sure.

In that vein, "differently sized" should also be ok.

Re: A dwarf planet coming within 11 AU of the sun over the next 10 years

#272
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is often jocularly called lithobraking and is typically not advisable.

> not advisable Unless you're NASA landing a probe on Mars in 1997.

Didn't they launch a projectile into an asteroid not long ago as well?

Re: A dwarf planet coming within 11 AU of the sun over the next 10 years

#273
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a dwarf planet of ~ 200 km diameter. The thing has a miniscule gravity well, it won't matter much compared to launching from earth and matching orbits with it, i think...

For comparison, that's about 10% of the Moon's diameter, i.e. 0.1% of its volume. (The mass ratios are probably within that 0.1% ballpark, but can't tell for sure until we know more about its composition.)

IMHO beign able to spot something with this size at this distance is really awesome.

Re: A dwarf planet coming within 11 AU of the sun over the next 10 years

#274

For reference 1 AU (Astronomical Unit) is about 150 million km. Saturn ranges from being about 7 to 11 AU away from Earth. Voyager 1 is 152 AU away. This object is excitingly close and will be fun to study.

Stupid question:

The Hubble photos we have from Saturn are a 7-8 AU range, right?

Even more stupid question:

Pointing the Hubble there is worth the effort? how many pixels wide would be a 200km diameter object at 11 AU?

Re: A dwarf planet coming within 11 AU of the sun over the next 10 years

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How fast can we build and launch something to rendezvous with this dwarf planet?

New Horizons took a nearly straight shot to Pluto (just stopping by Jupiter on the way for a gravity assist). That trip took 9 years to travel 40 AU (not at constant speed, of courses, since it's constantly being drawn toward the Sun). This dwarf planet makes its closest approach at 10 AU, so you could do a fly by in less than 3 years if you wanted to pay for it. However, the science return from a flyby would be limi…

I would assume planning and budgeting would also take up a lot of time.

Re: A dwarf planet coming within 11 AU of the sun over the next 10 years

#277
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post #121

>almost undoubtedly the largest Oort Cloud object ever discovered- almost in dwarf planet territory! Not a dwarf planet.

Thus, "almost". But big enough to be spherical. Or to eliminate multicellular life on Earth, if it hit us.

C'mon maybe a few multicellular lifeforms would survive. What about everyone's favorite tardigrade?

Re: A dwarf planet coming within 11 AU of the sun over the next 10 years

#278

Okay so if this was a direct hit, what would happen!? Would it just be a non event for the sun or could we expect higher temperatures on Earth or worse?

It's apparently pretty hard to hit the Sun:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHvR1fRTW8g

(Though that video mostly talks about small objects like rockets. Maybe it's a different story for dwarf planets?)

That said... Keep in mind that this is about a dwarf planet orbiting the Sun. It's 11 AU out, so twice as far from the Sun as Jupiter is.

Re: A dwarf planet coming within 11 AU of the sun over the next 10 years

#280

Okay so if this was a direct hit, what would happen!? Would it just be a non event for the sun or could we expect higher temperatures on Earth or worse?

A direct hit with the sun? Maybe slightly higher temperatures if the "impact site" was facing us, but not for long because the sun is highly convective and each "longitudinal ring" on the sun rotates differentially, thus dissipating the effects of that impact very very quickly. A good chunk of it would also probably burn up before even reaching the Sun, but how much of it is hard to say.

But keep in mind, it says "within 11 AU of the Sun", which is still beyond Saturn; Saturn's 9.5 AU away from the Sun, and Uranus is about 19 AU away from the Sun. So it's still pretty far away.

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