Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams • Hacker News Board

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Post by idiotsecant » Sun, May 23, 2021, 2:10 PM UTC

belltaco wrote: post #205

idiotsecant wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is that hot tub twitch isn't an actual interaction between two people, its a dopamine feedback loop that warps an un-jaded mind into thinking it's reality.

Is that also true of VR games, games in general, multiplayer games, concerts,TV, videos, watching a streamer play games, movies, social media etc. etc.?

Yes, I think so, just to a lesser degree. People playing VR half life Alyx don't actually think they are part of a human insurrection fighting alien overlords but an alarmingly large number of people watching these hottub streams think they have some legitimately romantic connection to the streamer, or a chance of it. Young men can be remarkably stupid in this way.

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Post by belval » Sun, May 23, 2021, 7:13 PM UTC

derefr wrote: post #183

belval wrote: post #53

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There is not enough money in it for Amazon to start ramping up in pornographic material. The chances of brand degradation, possible boycotts due to women looking young/revenge porn is much much too high to be worth it.

Amazon already is in the pornographic-streaming market, just at a remove. Who do you think the biggest customers of AWS's media-streaming IaaS infrastructure offerings are? People who need to move terabytes per second of live video over the Internet, but for some reason cannot make an Enterprise partnership with one of the public-facing media-hosting services (e.g. YouTube, Hulu, etc.) There's really only one industr…

Well that's pretty much my point, I said Amazon didn't want to make more money, I said that they didn't want to degrade their brand. It's not some moral high-ground, they just did cost analysis and realized that it was not worth it to get directly involved (as in branching out).

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Post by ClumsyPilot » Sun, May 23, 2021, 7:19 PM UTC

hervature wrote: post #239

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #190

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"if it's not porn, would you be okay with a 13 yr old (the age limit on twitch) doing it?" That's about the age people discover porn, so the test doesn't work.

They are talking about actually streaming. Would you be comfortable allowing a 13 year old girl in a bikini playing in an indoor inflatable pool that changes bikinis every 50 subs? The content is public, you can watch any stream without logging in.

Right, that's ofcourse different, but is that the right test?

"X is being done and filmed by an adult, and kids have access to this platform, would you be comfortable with a teenager doing the same?"

I can also think of a number of potentially dangerous activities, unrelated to sexual stuff, that would be appropriate for an adult to stream but not a kid.

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Post by majewsky » Mon, May 24, 2021, 1:31 AM UTC

throway98752343 wrote: post #158

didibus wrote: post #11

> Sexually suggestive content–and where to draw the line–is an area that is particularly complex to assess, as sexual suggestiveness is a spectrum that involves some degree of personal interpretation of where the line falls This is just in general why I have an issue with prudeness in our society. I have no idea where prudeness comes from, is it innate to some people? Is it a taught trait? But it seems to cause so mu…

> This is just in general why I have an issue with prudeness in our society. My brain reacts to sexual stimuli, as it evolved to. I don't want that reaction when I'm riding the metro, or in a work meeting, or having a family dinner. So it's helpful to have a set of social norms about when and where to expect and accept sexual content and when not to. > I have no idea where prudeness comes from, is it innate to some p…

> sexy characters who used to be contentious have been commonplace for a while now

They have always been both.

Re: Let’s Talk About Hot Tub Streams

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Post by Siira » Mon, May 24, 2021, 5:20 PM UTC

idiotsecant wrote: post #271

belltaco wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that also true of VR games, games in general, multiplayer games, concerts,TV, videos, watching a streamer play games, movies, social media etc. etc.?

Yes, I think so, just to a lesser degree. People playing VR half life Alyx don't actually think they are part of a human insurrection fighting alien overlords but an alarmingly large number of people watching these hottub streams think they have some legitimately romantic connection to the streamer, or a chance of it. Young men can be remarkably stupid in this way.

How is this your problem? The streamer is taking on all the risks.

And we were talking about children.