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Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by alsetmusic » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 3:50 AM UTC

rtpg wrote: post #221

JProthero wrote: post #185

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I've watched both Grey's and Haran's videos since their early years on YouTube, and I'd be curious to know what the story is behind the disappearance of their podcast. It seemed like an odd development to me in view of how engaged they both appeared to be with their audience. I know that Haran eventually posted a brief comment on Reddit acknowledging the hiatus, but it struck me as a strangely subdued way to announce…

I think especially for podcasters in recent years there have been some.... issues with community management. I would say in particular lots of these people started doing "community slacks/discords" and then they realized that being able to produce podcast episodes doesn't make you a good community manager. There's been specific drama with Relay and people around that extended universe as well, so lots of podcast host…

> I think especially for podcasters in recent years there have been some.... issues with community management.

A show that I listen to skipped a week during the early stages of the pandemic. I was concerned that one of the hosts was ill / possibly dying. It was some planned thing, like a vacation or something. A little notice would have been nice.

Sure, these are strangers and my emotional investment is a bit like teen girls crying when they saw the Beatles play: “Really?”. But I love the show and would have missed it, so I was anxious about its (possible) demise.

I think you’ve nailed it with this.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by nomdep » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 3:51 AM UTC

roenxi wrote: post #228

cmeacham98 wrote: post #197

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I disagree. What about a situation where a cisgendered man prefers having sex with people that also have dicks? Typically, we would call this person gay, which we interpret as "men who have sex with men". However, this person would want to have sex with cis men and trans women, not because they're transphobic, but because their preference is based on the person's physical body. My point with the example is that there…

Playing sport is not some radical edge case, nor is there anything to think about. Women can compete in women's sport. "Transgender women should not be in women's sports" is transphobic no matter what logic follows it. It is society not treating women as women. Adding a "because they are men" or not on the end doesn't change the level of transphobia much, the meaty part is the "no, I've decided you can't be treated a…

We are talking about body, not mind. Transgender women are women with a biological man body (otherwise we wouldn’t have this conversation.) So it is unfair for women with biological women body. The whole point of separating biological women of biological men in sports is to prevent that.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by jccalhoun » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 3:56 AM UTC

It seems really weird that BBC would do a story on these alternates to youtube, mention them, and then not link to them.

I watch Linus Tech Tips so I've heard of floatplane but I haven't heard of the others mentioned. Even one of the three links in the article just goes to another site called tubefilter which itself doesn't link to this nebula thing. It took me ten minutes to find the site because I had to read the articles trying to see if they linked to https://watchnebula.com/ (admittedly, that link doesn't really do a great job of selling the product either)

What is the point of doing stories about other web sites without linking to them?

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by ttt0 » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 4:01 AM UTC

sodality2 wrote: post #261

ttt0 wrote: post #251

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They were successfully censored from the internet for quite some time. I believe they were only available through the onion. They must've burned through like two dozens of domains at this point.

Changing info at the registrar would have fixed this, they would probably have only lasted a few minutes w/o DDOS but it's not like cloudflare singlehandedly banished them from the internet. I mean, they sort of did due to the lack of protection, but it's not like cloudflare has the keys to the entire internet; just their ddos service.

Sure, I'm not saying that they are the only people responsible. The thing is that everyone has the same mindset to the point where it seems almost like a coordinated effort. And Cloudflare's CEO admitted that the purpose behind their actions was to kick them off the internet.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by judge2020 » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 4:05 AM UTC

random5634 wrote: post #164

vl wrote: post #161

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And this is why Google needs to be split up. No other enterprise can burn so many billions of dollars for so many years to corner the market. Google uses profits from search to napalm everything remotely looking like a threat.

Does google make or lose money on youtube? Based on the number of ads I see, I'd imagine they break even?

They don't tell about profitability, but revenue was $15B so chances are they at least break even.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/3/21121207/youtube-google-al...

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by BoysenberryPi » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 4:11 AM UTC

georgebcrawford wrote: post #256

verve_rat wrote: post #139

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Also he has a channel on Nebula, a streaming service set up as a clear hedge against YouTube doing bad things. He was one of the driving forces behind Nebula, but I believe he is no longer involved in running it.

I thought he started standard.tv, or did that become Nebula?

Standard.tv is Nebula

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by brigandish » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 4:13 AM UTC

jccalhoun wrote: post #273

It seems really weird that BBC would do a story on these alternates to youtube, mention them, and then not link to them. I watch Linus Tech Tips so I've heard of floatplane but I haven't heard of the others mentioned. Even one of the three links in the article just goes to another site called tubefilter which itself doesn't link to this nebula thing. It took me ten minutes to find the site because I had to read the a…

The BBC is publicly funded and for years was very strict about no advertising or product placement in their output (which has relaxed somewhat in recent years but it’s still there) so perhaps it’s because they don’t want the article to be seen as “newsvertising” (is there a special term for this?)

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by judge2020 » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 4:16 AM UTC

erk__ wrote: post #58

imwillofficial wrote: post #29

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What does Vimeo offer that YouTube doesn’t do better? What reduction in risk does Vimeo offer that is any different than YouTube?

DRM Free movie downloads, also it supports better quality video. Though those are things that work because they do not have the same kind of customers/creators as YouTube in general.

> DRM Free movie downloads

This isn't even remotely related to Vimeo or YouTube. If you're talking about movies legitimately published by the rights owners not being DRM'd on Vimeo, then there's nothing stopping the studio from uploading a DRM-free version to YouTube as well. IF you're talking about piracy simply because Vimeo doesn't have Content ID, then that's also just a failure of Vimeo and/or the studios not really caring about 480p streams with relatively few views.

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by walrus01 » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 4:19 AM UTC

desiarnezjr wrote: post #267

walrus01 wrote: post #248

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The first part. I didn't mean so much that he's a person who tried and didn't get a part on a Vancouver-produced TV show, but that his video production efforts are part of the whole general Vancouver and Toronto "hollywood north" industry scene of people who act, do camera work, set decoration, costume, cinematography, sound, rigging, grips, etc.

No, it's more "roll your own" but has worked well.

From an outsider's perspective it looks like a "roll your own" using some of the existing knowledge base, talent pool and resources that exist floating around in the Vancouver video production industry... Undoubtedly some of what he's done in the past 3-4 years with a serious studio, cameras, editing, sound and lighting would be more difficult if he were not in Vancouver, but were in some location with much fewer constantly ongoing video productions (random example: Portland).

Re: Popular YouTubers who are building their own sites

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Post by lc9er » Mon, Mar 08, 2021, 4:26 AM UTC

alsetmusic wrote: post #271

rtpg wrote: post #221

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I think especially for podcasters in recent years there have been some.... issues with community management. I would say in particular lots of these people started doing "community slacks/discords" and then they realized that being able to produce podcast episodes doesn't make you a good community manager. There's been specific drama with Relay and people around that extended universe as well, so lots of podcast host…

> I think especially for podcasters in recent years there have been some.... issues with community management. A show that I listen to skipped a week during the early stages of the pandemic. I was concerned that one of the hosts was ill / possibly dying. It was some planned thing, like a vacation or something. A little notice would have been nice. Sure, these are strangers and my emotional investment is a bit like te…

> A show that I listen to skipped a week during the early stages of the pandemic. I was concerned that one of the hosts was ill / possibly dying. It was some planned thing, like a vacation or something. A little notice would have been nice.

I’d imagine it can be a real grind, endlessly producing a podcast week after week. If it’s anything more than walking up to a mic and talking stream of consciousness, the prep work must take hours.

Most podcasters have other jobs. On one hand, I’m surprised that we don’t see people taking a seasonal approach, to give themselves a break, recharge, and maybe put in work writing and researching in the down time. On the other, it seems so many are afraid to walk away, even temporarily, for fear of losing an audience.