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Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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I guess he just doesn't want to pay state income tax. Tim Ferriss moved from California to Texas before Uber went public. Joe Rogan moved from California to Texas before he started working with Spotify. Any other relatively well known people that have done the same?

Definitely thought of Joe Rogan the second I saw the headline.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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post #211

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Or, framed differently, California is looking for deep pockets to bail out their failing budget rather than adjust their policy to match what they can afford. The same has been happening in New Jersey with its insane taxes that don't really go to pay for services anymore and have diverted from transportation & infrastructure projects for decades now to bail out their severely underfunded pension funds...where the pen…

> where the pensioners have almost entirely moved out of New Jersey to avoid the same taxes. (Income) Tax free Texas sounds good right about now!

Texas is a no income tax, but moderately high property tax state. That's good when you are making money, but can be hard when you retire: low income, high tax on your house.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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post #106

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why would i buy a car from a company founded by nazis?

Konrad Zuse was one of the pioneers of computing. He was a German who worked under the Nazis. IBM did a lot of profitable business with the Nazis. You used a device based in part on work done by and for Nazis to post that message, if you posted it from the USA you'll have posted it "from stolen land" according to the more "progressive" elements in society. The clothes you're wearing are probably partly or wholly made…

your entire thesis is more or less: "it happened, get over it?" night doesn't become day in a single instant.

your long list mapping products you use to the horrors of their creation shows that you obviously grok the gravity of the situation.

choosing to be flippant about it just damns you even more.

you could definitely stop buying nazi cars, conflict diamonds, child labor iPhones... pay reparations or return stolen land. you're choosing not to and shouting your choice into the internet expecting everyone to give you kudos for it.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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> very left-wing sources like NY Times and Politico. Not disagreeing with your overall claim that CA does in fact have budget problems, but citing the NYT and Politico as "very left-wing" is a pretty hilarious example of just how far right "center" American thinking has gone. NYT is a classic example of a centrist/liberal publication that is widely reviled by anyone on the left. edit: If you think "liberals" are the…

>90% of the NYT's readers are Democrats: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/01/americans-m...

You are making the gp point. Democratic party is a centrist-liberal party. Not a leftist party. They are a publicly trades corporation owned by wealthy individuals.

They are not a worker co-op, they are not a mutual aid-organization, they are not seeking to overthrow the capital class, they are not socialist, maoist, communist, anarchist, etc. therefore they are not left.

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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post #39

Shocking to see someone anti-union trying to flee a state that actually protects workers rights: https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/9/30/20891314/elon-musk-... While I admire Elon's vision, I'm not a huge fan of how he's going about it. Kind of seems like he views other human beings as tools to be used and discarded when they've outlived their usefulness. You can see it when he makes comments about things like the U…

> yes Elon, US workers expect to be treated like humans They just don't expect the non-US workers that make their iPhones to be treated the same..

before trump we used to do this thing called try to cajole other countries into having labor laws. something the TPP would have helped with, for example. MAGA amirite?

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Moving out of CA was the best decision I ever made. Now I can drive on the roads without traffic, pay 0 state income tax and live my life peacefully without being surrounded by bums and social justice warriors. Downvote away SJWs!

what a useless comment - should be removed

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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My birth certificate says "Texas" across the top and people have been "fleeing California" to Texas for as long as I've been alive. There's nothing special about Musk; he just happens to be high-profile about it and managed to extract more from California before decamping to a "cheap" state than several of those who came before him. I disagree with your assessment that Texas has wide acceptance for opposing viewpoint…

How long have you been out of Texas? I think we know people aren't coming to Texas to live in Tyler; They are moving to the cities, Dallas, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, which are all diverse, and have large gay communities. Even Tyler has changed. (old article, but still) https://www.advocate.com/society/activism/2009/09/29/gays-ta...

But that's rather my point: if you're living just in the larger metro areas, you're choosing to insulate yourself from the rampant discrimination and bigotry that, numerically, forms the bulk of the electorate and shape the cultural mindset. To be clear, that's not a bad thing that people make that choice; I would, were in that position.

If Texas voters will finally vote in someone who is more like Ann Richards than Greg Abbott, I will believe the mindset is changing. Statewide votes for Governor, Lite Gov, Comptroller, and so on are not gerrymandered so a vote in San Antonio counts just as much as a vote in Midland.

(To your first question, I have not lived in Texas for over a decade, but I am the only member of my family who does not so I have pretty close connections to this day.)

Re: Elon Musk moves to Texas

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Given that the Starship / SuperHeavy project is entering the most exciting phase (flights! explosions! first reaching of the orbit! first return in one piece!) and that most, if not all of those exciting things are happening in Boca Chica, TX, I suspect it is not just about taxes.

After all, I am a humble HN user from half the world away and I still spend time on live streams from Boca Chica. If I were Musk, I would move there.

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