The persecution of the Uyghurs is a crime against humanity

Post by me_me_me » Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 1:30 PM UTC

levosmetalo wrote: post #143

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> The point of UN and UNSC is as a venue to talk about these things and negotiate solutions - it's not like it ever was an option to have an UN that can make binding decisions on the major powers, no major sovereign power would ever agree to that. You know, the original intent of UN was of an organisation to do exactly this. After the second world war, the determination was made that the no pill is too bitter to prev…

And which country was the first one to start dropping bombs on other sovereign countries without a UN mandate? If I remember correctly, it was not China. They never dropped a single bomb on any other country.

Post by Mediterraneo10 » Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 1:43 PM UTC

luckylion wrote: post #263

Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #246

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> The US is steering towards Majority Minority, is it not? It is not, at least not in the context of the present discussion. While whites are set to lose their majority, one of the minorities overtaking them are African-Americans, who cannot reasonably be called immigrants, because they were brought to the US against their will long ago, and they came before the late 19th-century and early 20th-century influx of Euro…

That's a lot of goal post moving, and for Europe I think you're fundamentally mistaken. Needless to say that this doesn't convince me, why you'd treat the same policy completely different in a moral judgement. Principles that don't hold when transported to new circumstances aren't principles.

Post by ASlave2Gravity » Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 1:53 PM UTC

tombh wrote: post #236

onetimemanytime wrote: post #197

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>> But on what basis does the West have any moral authority to judge China's emulation of Western colonialism. Our great-great grandfathers beat their wives, thus no one should be able to judge me for doing the same today. Is this your argument?

It was profoundly more than beating wives. The entire foundation of the West is based on genocides and mass theft that make the Uyghur crisis seem small. My argument is more along the lines of: our emotional reaction to Chinese colonial projects is a subconscious projection of our own unresolved acknowledgement of the price we paid for modernity.

Post by pwinnski » Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 2:28 PM UTC

wil421 wrote: post #199

scotty79 wrote: post #187

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I'm only posting this because I never intend to visit American soil. Otherwise I wouldn't dare. Because I know that these kinds of messages might be connected to my person and used against me if I ever come in conflict with American enforcement.

How would you know what it was like in America if you’ve never even visited?

Post by chaostheory » Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 2:49 PM UTC

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Camps yes, but if you're going to be technical, it's actually spread through out the United States and not just at the border and it is bad when you compare it to other developed countries. Forced surgeries and sterilizations? For a claim like that, you're going to have to cite a credible source. As imperfect as we are, we're not as bad as China.

> A report claims women in immigration centers are being given unnecessary procedures that can leave them unable to conceive. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/21/unwanted-hys...