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Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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With the overwhelming amount of evidence and testimony regarding human rights violations in Xinjiang, burden of proof is on the CCP to disprove. EDIT: Since HN has blocked me from posting too fast, here is my response to your reply: > It's so absurd! Not a SINGLE MUSLIM MAJORITY COUNTRY is against these supposed Xinjiang camps! Why do you think the USA suddenly cares about muslims? Use your brain. Maybe China has bou…

Why bother with Global Times? Why not go straight to the UN. Which countries support china's Xinjiang policy and which oppose? Notice which side most islamic countries are on? And which side the countries that have a muslim ban are on? https://thediplomat.com/2019/07/which-countries-are-for-or-a... It's so absurd! Not a single muslim majority country is against these supposed Xinjiang camps! Why do you think the USA…

Hey, please edit out swipes like "use your brain" from your HN comments. They only make things worse. I realize that it's frustrating to represent a contrarian/minority view on the internet, but there's really only one way to do it effectively and that is to prevent the frustration from boiling over and stick to neutral information. Otherwise you just give people an additional reason to reject what you're saying, which ends up discrediting whatever truth you're advocating for. I've written about this elsewhere in case it's helpful: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

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Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Jeff Bezos, Amazon CEO, got his phone hacked and embarrassing text messages stolen off it from a vulnerability in the video parsing library in WhatsApp in a message sent to him by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in 2018. So Amazon as a company is now very sensitive to what applications are installed on staff devices and how data on those devices can be extracted from vulnerabilities in other installed apps. Th…

is the jury still out on whether MBS knowingly sent him that hack? that is, not to put too fine a point on it, a fast path to becoming even more of an international pariah than he already is

Tricking a [EDIT: thanks 'spyspy!] WaPo journalist into visiting a consulate and then chopping him into pieces with a saw while he screamed and cursed you? Dropping bombs to kill hundreds of thousands of Yemeni children? Making the people of Saudi Arabia somehow less free? Those things were pretty bad sir! But now you've gone too far! How dare you peep on our first trillionaire while he's courting outside his marriage?!? At long last, have you no shame?!??

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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That's like saying Twitter is not Twitter because we can type more than 140 characters now.

For the rest of us that don't follow social media systems closely (just looked up, I'm trusting my search results): TikTok allows 15 second videos (only 2.5x the length of Vine videos) but also has a way to string multiple videos together for 60 seconds of play time (10x longer than Vine had). So this is actually a pretty fair comparison (old Twitter @ 140 vs new Twitter @ 280) if you ignore stringing them together.

It's not only about the mathematical factor. It's about which usecases are possible.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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There's also no requirement to have your business email on your phone, at least in my organization in Amazon. I'm happy to leave it off and not worry about any issues like this. Of course I do have other apps directly related to work... I guess those aren't an issue if I had TikTok?

i haven’t had work email on my phone in 7 years. it has not impacted my career negatively

How do you know?

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Tell me a single good social app from Google. I'll wait. It's not like they didn't try, but all of them seem to suffer from the design by committee syndrome.

The only one legitimately and accidentally created by Google was: Google Reader Orkut: stagnated and killed G+: design by committee as you said YT: acquired but the social aspects are down the drain We can complain about FB and Zuckerberg as much as we want but they knew how to evolve the network and keep the users

I'm still convinced that what was the true killer of G+ was the slow rollout.

It's like Google forgot that a social network needs to be social. Limiting how many people could get on G+ created hype for sure, but whenever someone got a invite, they realized none (or very few) of their friends were on it, and quickly forgot about it.

The slow rollout approach worked for GMail because your friends didn't need GMail for it to work for you.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Jeff Bezos, Amazon CEO, got his phone hacked and embarrassing text messages stolen off it from a vulnerability in the video parsing library in WhatsApp in a message sent to him by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in 2018. So Amazon as a company is now very sensitive to what applications are installed on staff devices and how data on those devices can be extracted from vulnerabilities in other installed apps. Th…

Does anyone have any technical detail of that story. It is hard to imagine how a bug in the image parse library can be utilise to steal text message.

It's even harder to imagine how someone could rewrite the code to Super Mario World on an unmodified SNES to play Flappy Bird just using regular controllers, yet it's possible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB6eY73sLV0

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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I'll admit I don't know the specifics beyond what was tweeted. I'm with you though... If an employer wants to manage my device, they can provide the device.

With all the security implications there could be, I would just refuse to use or own a smartphone in any capacity if it's related to work, unless there was no camera, mic, or GPS sensor (or they could provide hardware switches). Seriously, they could be logging your exact location, remotely activating the camera or doing any number of disgusting things. Requiring the use of a spy should not be a factor in an employme…

You don't have a work laptop?

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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is the jury still out on whether MBS knowingly sent him that hack? that is, not to put too fine a point on it, a fast path to becoming even more of an international pariah than he already is

Tricking a [EDIT: thanks 'spyspy!] WaPo journalist into visiting a consulate and then chopping him into pieces with a saw while he screamed and cursed you? Dropping bombs to kill hundreds of thousands of Yemeni children? Making the people of Saudi Arabia somehow less free? Those things were pretty bad sir! But now you've gone too far! How dare you peep on our first trillionaire while he's courting outside his marriag…

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Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Looks like TikTok is slowly imploding. I know there's plenty of political implications and a lot of discussion here is on that (which is interesting in its own right), but I wonder if there's opportunity here for a potential competitor.

What does tiktok have that IG stories or SnapChat does not provide? It appears to me that TikTok is just a perpetuation of exclusivity in Social Networks (the same way kids exited FB when their parents signed up) ...

Besides recommendations that actually work like everyone else is saying, the "sound sharing" / "original sound" feature (don't know what it's officially called) is pretty unique, and it both encourages creation of new videos and leads to virality. If you want to make tiktoks and don't know what else to do, you can just do a dance that someone else started or re-act an existing tiktok with the same audio, perhaps putting your own spin or personality onto it. And from the other direction, if you see a funny or interesting tiktok, it's one button to see all videos made with the same audio. Also, it works -- everything in the UI is snappy, videos load even faster than YouTube, particularly on bad connections.

Re: Amazon says email banning TikTok from employee phones was ‘sent in error’

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Jeff Bezos, Amazon CEO, got his phone hacked and embarrassing text messages stolen off it from a vulnerability in the video parsing library in WhatsApp in a message sent to him by Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in 2018. So Amazon as a company is now very sensitive to what applications are installed on staff devices and how data on those devices can be extracted from vulnerabilities in other installed apps. Th…

How about making Whatsapp not permitted on Amazon employee’s phones?
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