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Not being an asshole will make you more money

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Re: Not being an asshole will make you more money

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I see participatants from all over the world here all the time. They usually qualify things with phrases like "where I'm from" or "in [insert country here]. It's only the Americans that think they're the center of the world. I used to watch this Japanese show "Why did you come to Japan?" where a camera crew hangs out at Narita Airport and ambushes unsuspecting foreigners with that question and try to tag along on the…

As an American expatriate I'm always shocked or bemused by the US-centric comments I get from family. I live in East Asia, which is by no measure a cultural or technological backwater, and was surprised to hear my mother say, two days ago, "you must get YouTube over there...". For some more perspective, I'm the most successful member of my family (from a financial pov) and from the condo I live in to the car I drive,…

When I first moved to China ~10 years ago, I mentioned to whomever I was on the phone with back home that I needed to go grab some cash and that I might lose the call when I got in the lift. They asked where I planned to get money in the middle of the night, and were surprised to learn that ATM technology had indeed made it to "the Orient."

These days most people just ask if I've eaten a dog.

Re: Not being an asshole will make you more money

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4) Contract gets unknowingly signed and shelved, OP moves jobs and his/her replacement assumes the signed contract is legitimate. Rare, but I've seen it happen. FWIW I completely agree with both you and OP - it's a totally boneheaded move, but you should never underestimate how boneheaded some people (lawyers in particular) can be.

5. Company who hired boneheaded lawyer, gets sick of them. Apologises for their lawyer and gets rid of the lawyer

How I wish that were true!

Re: Not being an asshole will make you more money

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I think this is being naive. You can wreck your career this way. You can be very talented but get screwed over if you are not aware of the people around you. In sense you need to have an “asshole” radar on at all times and be ready to respond in kind. Personally, this is exhausting.

Re: Not being an asshole will make you more money

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Exactly. 9 out of 10 managers will give you more money. They are not going to offer it to you, normally, because they are not a charity. They want to give you the least amount of money that you will except. Secondly, who ever gets fired for asking for a raise? I mean, that is not normal. And if that does happen to you, it's most likely of some other underlying factors, where asking for a raise is just the last drop.

> 9 out of 10 managers will give you more money. They are not going to offer it to you, normally, because they are not a charity. They want to give you the least amount of money that you will except. It's not charity to pay people what they are worth, it's a good business strategy. Paying them the least they would accept is a sure way to have a high turnover and frustrated employees. Bad strategy. At least in a worke…

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Re: Not being an asshole will make you more money

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> Smart successful people do not want to work with people they cannot trust. It's not worth it. The world's too big. You'll only ever whittle away your reputation until you're surrounded by mirrors of yourself. It's not worth it.

This can also be said for the hiring of talent. But these hiring people aren't only aholes, plenty of them are simply plain ol' dumbasses.

Of course you're not getting the best people, you're sending up red flags like fireworks on 4th of July.

Re: Not being an asshole will make you more money

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I think this is being naive. You can wreck your career this way. You can be very talented but get screwed over if you are not aware of the people around you. In sense you need to have an “asshole” radar on at all times and be ready to respond in kind. Personally, this is exhausting.

You can't change an asshole but you need to be more asshole to an asshole in order to inspire respect among peers and people around you. In my career before i get promoted i was already a go to guy among my peers because people knew i don't expect sympathy from an asshole and push their ideas if i see merit in it.

Re: Not being an asshole will make you more money

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> That's a really prejudiced and unwarranted view of Americans. If anything it says more about your biases and prejudices than it does about one nation. I am an American citizen so you can take it from an American citizen instead. Companies have zero scruples whatsoever about screwing over others in business.

But other companies still do business with them, right? So they're getting away with it.

For now..

Re: Not being an asshole will make you more money

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Most of the billionaires are assholes and/or criminals with a couple of noteworthy exceptions. So maybe not being an asshole will get you ahead in the middle but it won't get you all the way to the top of the foodchain. So this is solid advice, but unfortunately the role models are exactly those people that didn't follow this sort of advice. Microsoft, Amazon, Oracle, Apple, Google and Facebook all would not have bee…

> Microsoft, Amazon, Oracle, Apple, Google and Facebook all would not have been as large and would not generate as much money for their founders if the founders had been nice guys.

Possibly. How can we know for sure? Isn't this survivorship bias? Wouldn't more feasible companies, with more friendly leaders, have become leaders then? Or how about multiple companies ie. healthy competition?

Re: Not being an asshole will make you more money

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As opposed to... where exactly? I'm sure I can point at legal systems across the globe that have examples of completely terrible injustice. Which legal system are you referring to that is significantly not "poisonous"? And why?

Try anywhere in Northern Europe

Name one. Genuinely interested.

Most legal systems are broken in some way to some extent. Unfair cases exist because people aren't perfect, make mistakes and/or have agendas.

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