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Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation

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Re: Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation

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post #180

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> Mr. Assange’s health has been seriously affected by the extremely hostile and arbitrary environment he has been exposed to for many years Let me correct that: Mr Assange’s health has been seriously affected by the environment that he exposed himself to (Edit: I’m talking about the embassy episode here, not his more recent incarceration)

It's not like he had any better choice here.

He could have just faced the charges in Sweden. He'd be out by now if he was found guilty. His behavior and streams of lies about extradition, etc. suggest the whole episode was a guilty man hiding and foolishly digging in. His best option was always to just face the charges instead of fleeing justice.

Re: Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation

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> I'm not talking about Sweden. The charges in Sweden never mattered besides being a way for him to be extradited to the U.S. Citation needed. The fact that Swedes are being honest here, doesn't prove anything.

He always maintained he didn't face the charges in Sweden for fear of being extradited to the U.S. For sexual assault he'd likely already be getting out of prison in Sweden, or at least be very close. Extradition to the U.S. has always been the real threat to him. The fact that he's facing extradition now proves it was a valid concern. Even if the Swedes were honestly just trying to get him for sexual assault, he was…

> He always maintained he didn't face the charges in Sweden for fear of being extradited to the U.S.

Yeah... not really.

He's guilty of being a dick to women and is finally paying for it.

    According to court transcripts, Assange said he “wanted to impregnate women” and “preferred virgins because he would be the first to impregnate them”. He also reportedly told one of his alleged victims that “Sweden is a good country to have kids in”. 

    It’s unclear if Assange has engaged in this behavior with other women, but it is clear that he was fixated on, if not obsessed with, impregnating women. By the time he was accused of sexual assault, he had impregnated at least four women, all of whom gave birth to the children.
There also was the time when he tried to scare them, to make them drop charges by using wikileaks as a weapon to frame them as manipulators

    “An actual court case is going to be very, very hard for these women,” he warned. “They will be reviled forever by a large segment of the global population, so I don’t think it’s in their interest to proceed that way.”
And he also wanted to share his opinion on Sweden with the rest of the World

   “I fell into a hornets’ nest of revolutionary feminism,” Assange said in a 2010 interview during which he also described Sweden as “the Saudi Arabia of feminism”.

Imagine saying the same thing of U.S. in U.S. while accused of having raped a woman from U.S.A.

He clearly deserve what happened to him in Sweden, I don't know about the rest, but the Sweden rape case was the nail on his coffin, and he's the sole responsible for it.

https://bylinetimes.com/2019/05/02/julian-assange-is-a-misog...

Re: Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation

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They do. He should stand trial for that. However, I’m talking about the US case where he is being charged with espionage. In other words: exposing the US government’s illegal doings. He should not have to stand trial for that.

> . He should not have to stand trial for that. The Trump administration pushed the pedal on it. And to think that Assange was scared as hell of Hillary Clinton, which actually would be a much better option for him now, imagine Hillary forgiving Assange, she had a lot to gain from it, Trump doesn't care, he just really doesn't.

Yep. If Assange were betting a Trump administration would pardon him, he didn't do his homework on Trump.

Re: Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation

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post #50

Title should really be 'US takes hand out of Swedish puppet now that its free to extradite Assange' The take away here is stay anonymous when whistle blowing or handling leaks. Don't talk to anyone, don't say anything just take a USB stick to an Internet cafe while disguised and host a torrent. Then email the press the magnet link using a throw away email service.

Thing is, someone, at one point, needs to check the source. Also, most potential whistleblower are not privacy experts and need help. Assange wanted to be in that role, that is necessarily public.

He did many bad things (especially uncovering the name of sources, not redacting the cables in the cablegate) but like he said, it is interesting to see how censorship works in a democracy.

I also like how no one is talking about the (probably externally provoked) internal drama at wikileaks that led to the destruction of the Bank of America files that they had.

Re: Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation

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post #74

There were, not long ago, times when Assange was considered a saint of freedom after he exposed the corrupt Bush administration, the liberals everywhere were defending him and his case everywhere, they even made a Hollywood film about him. But he then made the mistake of his life, he exposed the corruption of the Clintons and got implicated in the Russia gate meme because Trump somehow won. Now he is totally on his o…

Good to see this voice among the masses who have a memory long enough to understand the big picture.

I think Assange will be taken care of when all is said and done. This is from 2016, Dr. Steve Pieczenik explains it all -- Assange was part of a 'counter-coup' from within the US Government to take down the Clinton cabal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov5kvWSz5LM&feature=emb_titl...

Re: Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation

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post #35

Worth mentioning that Nils Melzer, the UN Special Rapporteur on Torture, visited Assange and described his treatment as psychological torture: > “It was obvious that Mr. Assange’s health has been seriously affected by the extremely hostile and arbitrary environment he has been exposed to for many years,” the expert said. “Most importantly, in addition to physical ailments, Mr. Assange showed all symptoms typical for…

> typical for prolonged exposure to psychological torture, including extreme stress, chronic anxiety and intense psychological trauma.

Due to recent imprisonment or is this due to living for so long in a tiny "dorm room" in the Ecuadorian embassy?

No joke I think that could easily drive someone insane given enough time.

Re: Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation

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the charges were of 'rape' (not sexual assault), as it is defined in sweden. I m pretty sure these charges don't qualify as rape in most other countries: https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/4/12/18306901/julian-ass...

Having sex with an unconscious (due to sleep) woman counts as rape in the UK. Only the UK and Sweden's laws matter when extraditing between those countries.

waking up with sex isnt the same as unconscious sex. and its apparent from the description in the article that it was consensual

Re: Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation

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post #193

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the charges were of 'rape' (not sexual assault), as it is defined in sweden. I m pretty sure these charges don't qualify as rape in most other countries: https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/4/12/18306901/julian-ass...

I understand you feel Swedish law is too harsh on this, but surely that is besides the point since Assange was in Sweden at the time of the alleged crime? It doesn't really matter if his actions qualifies as rape in any other country or not if they do in Sweden (which was for the courts to decide).

Generally a country will only extradite you if the crime alleged is also a crime in that country. Some countries also stipulate that the punishment must not be severely stronger than in the current country.

Re: Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation

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> the "entire intelligence community is deflated Anything that makes the intelligence community deflated is a good thing.

Unless it means that those attacks that the intelligence community prevented will take place.

Maybe it will prevent some of those attacks that the intelligence community precipitated. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-attack-drones...

Re: Sweden Drops Julian Assange Rape Investigation

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Ah, the old “he was free to leave anytime” argument. No. He wasn’t. Yes, technically, he was free to leave, but arguing that is ignoring the fact that leaving would mean jail. It’s victim blaming. Would you say a victim of Stockholm Syndrome is “free to leave at any time”? No, because that’s a ridiculous argument. Would you say Snowden is “free to leave [Russia] at any time”? No! So why is it an acceptable argument w…

> but arguing that is ignoring the fact that leaving would mean jail. > It’s victim blaming Yeah, but the victim is the woman he raped and that will not see any justice, because he ran...

He did not rape anyone nor did anyone accused him of rape. He is being accused of a very specific thing which at best might be classified as sexual misconduct.
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