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Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Including Thimbleweed Park, the best game ever

Never heard of it. It looks like Monkey Island, which is IMHO one of the best games ever.

it's made by the guy who made monkey island. you'll love it. i was so stoked to have my book on the library shelf in the game. there were user submissions while the game was in progress and it really added something special to it.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Seconded. I've been using Plasma since the KDE 3.4 days, although I've dabbled in other desktop environments. I love it. I honestly miss the experience when I'm using other operating systems on machines other than my own personal ones. And other Linux desktop environments are also honestly pretty good. Plasma's just my favorite, not the only good one. I hope some people do try Linux on account of stuff like this and…

If I was going to set up an older person who struggles with computers, would you say plasma is decent, or should I stick with cinnamon?

i would say stick to mint cinnamon

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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That's a pretty clear dark pattern, no? At the very least, it signals that Microsoft really doesn't want users creating offline accounts. Which is troubling, because their TOS for online accounts is quite onerous, and includes a couple of problematic restrictions, including a mandatory arbitration agreement. If I was a Windows user who relied on local accounts this would be very worrying to me.

It's most definitely a dark pattern. Just how reddit now prompts you to enter an email when you register but it's not marked as required and it doesn't say optional either.

To be fair, it’s really unusual that they even let you get an account without an email — I believe they’re still one of the only major sites left that allow this at all.

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Open source contributions for Microsoft are just like charities for big corporations with despicable practices. They can use it to say "hey we are not that bad, after all we support FOSS!"

MS has been open-sourcing a lot of stuff in the past few years, which I see more as meaning that their IP has little intrinsic value anymore. MS used to sell software, so code was sacred and not meant for others to see; now it's more about services, so code doesn't really matter much anymore, and if it's code that can help people use their services, open-sourcing makes sense. You can see this with Google, Facebook, a…

Eh, I think you're stretching it a bit too far. The code these corporations release as FOSS is a tiny, tiny portion of their software portfolio.

The main reason they open-source stuff is mindshare among the developer community, which helps with recruiting, influencing discussions in the public sphere, and so on.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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...and from what I can tell, their online account security is craptastic. Here’s a true story that happened to my family. My son is the only person in the house who uses Windows. For his game machine. He set up a Microsoft online account. It got hacked - someone set up a fake family and managed to get my son’s account listed under it as a child. As a consequence, he couldn’t install any new software. I’m not sure wha…

Today you still can use and create an offline account. If you’re offline. People here don’t read the original thread.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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“They have not removed it, it just is not visible by default if you are connected to the internet. Either run the setup without being connected to the internet, or type in a fake phone number a few times and it will give you the prompt to create a local account.”

I guess they want to emulate Google chromeOS and Google is busy emulating MS of the 2000s. Shame.

Or you know, iCloud? The thing that most people here probably have.

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Windows remains the most convenient OS for video games, and given HN's userbase (mostly young men), I think a lot of people here use Windows.

Windows is also the OS that doesn't require relatively expensive hardware(MacOS barring hackintosh) and doesn't require that much fiddling(Linux). It's basically the good enough option that most people would use.

It also lets you build bloody good ones. The 3950X will be a ripper when it's out, couple that with a PCIE4 nvme, 3600 MHz DDR4 and you'll have screaming performance for a relatively modest budget that'd cost you a mortgage and a firstborn under Apple - if at all possible.

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I've switched to Linux + Mint in part because I don't want to be using Windows any more. Many of my games work with Steam on Linux now, actually. With Google's docs/drive, everything works cross platform. I really have no productivity loss by not using Windows any more.

> With Google's docs/drive, everything works cross platform What do you use instead of Google Backup and Sync client? I haven't found something that works like that. The "best" thing I've found is the FUSE Ocaml filesystem ( https://github.com/astrada/google-drive-ocamlfuse ) but still it is a "mounted" over network filesystem and not a sync-on-change solution. I tried InSync but could not make it work and it is not…

Happy Nextcloud user here. If you don't want to host it yourself, there are different providers out there (click on 'change provider'):

https://nextcloud.com/signup/

Hetzner doesn't seem to be listed there, but they offer Nextcloud as a service too: https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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...and from what I can tell, their online account security is craptastic. Here’s a true story that happened to my family. My son is the only person in the house who uses Windows. For his game machine. He set up a Microsoft online account. It got hacked - someone set up a fake family and managed to get my son’s account listed under it as a child. As a consequence, he couldn’t install any new software. I’m not sure wha…

Yep, and last I checked (earlier this year I believe), there’s still a 14-character length limit on the MS account password. My bank’s better than that for crying out loud. Forget diceware or any other sane scheme, say hello to random hard-to-type punctuation characters. And now you’re forced to use that as your computer password too, which you probably have to type multiple times a day. (Okay, thankfully local accou…

Are you talking about online microsoft account or something windows specific? Because that's not true, my password has been 40+ characters for a long time and I change it pretty often.

For local login you can use a PIN, or set up windows hello, if you don't want to type in the long password every time.

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