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Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Re: Best Smartphones That Still Have a Headphone Jack

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Post by Johnny555 »

hombre_fatal wrote: post #79
pierreyoda wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it will not work with the rest of your gear.

Just last night I met some new people at a bar/restaurant, we went back to one of their places, and spent the evening drinking tequila while passing around an aux cable to share music while we hung out and talked for hours. And many, many times I've been a passenger in a car that only has an aux cable for listening to music, and I've been able to put on music. I realized how silly it would've been to be unable to par…

That seems like a pretty fringe use-case, the last time I listened to my music at someone else's house, I just paired my phone with their soundbar, took all of 30 seconds to do.

Even aux ports aren't that common in cars, certainly less common than bluetooth in recent cars - a 3.5mm -> FM Transmitter adapter seems like it would be more universal.

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Post by brokenmachine »

JohnFen wrote: post #117
chuckgreenman wrote: post #18

I'm a single-issue voter when it comes to cell phones - if it doesn't have a headphone jack, I won't be buying it.

I'm triple-issue. If the phone doesn't have a headphone jack, doesn't have a user-replaceable battery, and doesn't have an SD card slot, then I'm not buying it.

I feel the same but it's getting harder and harder to fulfil those requirements.

I want a really large screen as well. The Galaxy Note 10 has everything I want, except the damn headphone jack!!!

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Post by brokenmachine »

recursive wrote: post #169
stuff4ben wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your bluetooth experiences don't mimic the majority. You've just had some shitty headphones and/or Android phones. Never a problem on my iphones 4, 6, 8 Plus and I'm sure my soon to be 11 Pro with 10s of bluetooth enabled devices (cars, headphones, speakers, etc).

Are you implying that Android users are in some secondary group? I was under the impression that was a bigger group than any other.

I'm on Android and bluetooth works fine in my car, with all the limitations that bluetooth has.

I use a headphone jack for headphones because I'm an audio snob and it's much better audio quality with zero latency, I can use quality headphones, and I don't have to charge another thing. Bluetooth is a step backwards.

pros of headphone jack:

much better audio quality, zero latency, lighter headphones, one less thing to charge every day

cons of headphone jack:

a wire

For me it's no contest, and there's no reason we can't have both.

I definitely won't be buying a phone without a headphone jack, and the suggestion that I have to make that compromise is stupid.

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Post by boring_twenties »

wilsonnb3 wrote: post #83
chuckgreenman wrote: post #18

I'm a single-issue voter when it comes to cell phones - if it doesn't have a headphone jack, I won't be buying it.

but, why? I sincerely don't understand why the headphone jack is the hill that so many people choose to die on. The $9 lightning to 3.5mm dongle has worked perfectly for me, as has my USB-c to 3.5mm dongle.

The dongle is completely unacceptable to me. First of all, there is a 100% chance that I will at some point forget it at home or lose it altogether, and then be unable to use my headphones altogether. That's a dealbreaker.

Then there's the sheer inconvenience of carrying it around. I only have three things in my pockets: wallet, phone, keys. It takes less than a second to ensure that I have all three of those things on me. If I now have to dig past my wallet to the bottom of my pocket to make sure a little dongle is in there, that is dramatically worse.

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Post by old-gregg »

I've been quite happy with my 6s, going to replace the battery again soon. But eventually iOS updates will cease coming, yet I absolutely cannot live without a headphone jack.

Honest question: how would you even approach the Android? My smartphone is basically a more mobile extension of my laptop: sending document snapshots directly from the phone's camera to my MacOS desktop, starting iMessage conversations with anyone with a phone number on a Mac and continuing on my phone, copy-pasting from my laptop into my phone, etc.

Android seems to be designed to run in "I'm an island" mode, i.e. the phone is one and only computer a user is supposed to use. I understand that my usage pattern isn't what manufacturers (and Google) are optimizing for, but what would be the closest approximation?

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Post by humble_engineer »

twic wrote: post #85
oftenwrong wrote: post #15

This is just a top-6-best-gadgets list with affiliate links for each pick and a provocative headline.

No, it's more than that: it's an excuse for us to get together in the comments and rail against the passing of the headphone jack. I'm serious: the actual article in this case is the stone in a pot of stone soup.

The headphone jack isn't going anywhere. I'm an apple user and I'm still pissed about it.

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Post by brokenmachine »

Endy wrote: post #213
ryandrake wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I sometimes can’t believe that after 3 years people are still feeling hurt about this thing. I mean, go ahead and vote with your wallet but wow, what a hill to choose to die on! I’ve been through the obsolescence of floppy disks, cassette tapes, optical media/drives, DB9 serial ports, parallel printer ports, composite video, RCA audio jacks, VGA and countless other display output jacks, yet this silly 3.5mm headphone…

All those technologies you named above are part of my daily life. I can't imagine not saving my (plaintext) writing on a floppy. I listen to CDs, and I watch DVDs. All of my video output is VGA or CGA. My DVD player uses RCA. The 3.5 mm jack works - and it works well. I can connect audio devices together which were created a century apart. Heck, I use the same earphones in my phone, my computer, my TV, and my grandpa…

If you are using a floppy (or a DVD) nowadays, you are either a luddite or a masochist.

>if it can't work as efficiently and as compatibly as a 3.5mm jack, take it back to the drawing board until it does.

100% agree.

The fact this is even a discussion makes me weep for humanity.

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Post by JMTQp8lwXL »

lostgame wrote: post #216

Apple’s lack of follow-up to the iPhone SE means the SE is still the best iPhone with a headphone jack. I honestly can’t believe Apple did an iPhone event without introducing a new model in that size. I know at least a dozen people (especially women) who had been saying for at least a year that until the SE had a replacement, they’d be using one, or swapping to Android. With the weakest offerings for iPhones yet, in…

I've been looking into Linux, but it's a nightmare to get running on a (2018) Macbook Pro. (Older years have better support through community effort). With the introduction of new chipsets, it's made it even more challenging for the OSS community to keep up. My next laptop will likely be not a MacBook, so long as I can get a high-res display.

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Post by kristofferR »

HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #261
stevewodil wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a dev and like the touch bar. Ask me anything

1) Would you like a physical function bar as well? 2) Do you use anything to customize the Touchbar to your liking? (I haven't used OS X in quite a while, and haven't heard of anything) 3) How's the rest of your keyboard doing? Do you like it?

2. The touchbar is very customizeable. GoldenChaos-BTT is the best one:

https://community.folivora.ai/t/goldenchaos-btt-the-complete...

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Post by boring_twenties »

ryandrake wrote: post #111
chuckgreenman wrote: post #18

I'm a single-issue voter when it comes to cell phones - if it doesn't have a headphone jack, I won't be buying it.

I sometimes can’t believe that after 3 years people are still feeling hurt about this thing. I mean, go ahead and vote with your wallet but wow, what a hill to choose to die on! I’ve been through the obsolescence of floppy disks, cassette tapes, optical media/drives, DB9 serial ports, parallel printer ports, composite video, RCA audio jacks, VGA and countless other display output jacks, yet this silly 3.5mm headphone…

There are no Bluetooth headphones that are as good as even moderately priced analog ones, e.g. the Sennheiser/Massdrop 6xx ($200 new).
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