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Post by WalterSear »

exabrial wrote: post #174
WalterSear wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you recommend a pair of cheap, studio quality, headphones that use bluetooth? Also a pair of good value, audiophile quality earbuds that use bluetooth? Please don't suggest Beats by Dre, or Apple. They aren't either.

How about ones that don't have unpredictable 15ms-30ms latency was well...

I didn't mention the insertion of shit codecs, either. Or replacing them every couple of years when the soldered in battery dies (as opposed to my Sony MDRs, that I've been using almost daily for a decade). Or trying to use them for 6+ hours a day, and keep them charged.

Or the killer feature of knockabout earbuds: that they cost $10 or so you can use them without worrying about leaving them somewhere, and afford to keep a pair in every bag.

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Post by lolsal »

squeaky-clean wrote: post #189
lolsal wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. edit to clarify: What statements can you (anyone, not just personally you) make about the expression I'm making with any degree of accuracy or confidence?

Sure, but is it A cigar, or is it YOUR cigar? I think I can safely say that offering a variety of colors would not be an appealing feature to you. I also feel safe guessing battery life is a bigger factor in your purchasing decision than the brand of the phone. You're probably not very influenced by which celebrities use which phone. You also probably don't buy new phones on release day.

> I think I can safely say that offering a variety of colors would not be an appealing feature to you. I also feel safe guessing battery life is a bigger factor in your purchasing decision than the brand of the phone. You're probably not very influenced by which celebrities use which phone. You also probably don't buy new phones on release day.

- Maybe it's a work phone and I had no choice in the matter? - Maybe I have a specific requirement (like a specific app I need) which requires a specific platform? - Maybe my preferred phone recently broke and I could only immediately afford the phone in my hand? - Maybe the phone was a gift and I had no say in the matter?

There are lots of not-unlikely scenarios like the above which mean any conclusion you might try to draw would have a very low level of accuracy.

I'm not interested in defending/participating in your particular evaluation of whatever phone you think I might have, I'm just making generic points that those guesses are essentially worthless, except for making internal musings and assumptions about me (which you could do about anything).

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Post by wutbrodo »

foobaw wrote: post #43

As someone who worked in a large OEM company releasing tons of smartphones, I'm actually impressed it only took 100 people to getting this out. I presume there was an incredible amount of sleepless nights, as this is no easy task. To be fair though, Sprint is one of the easier carriers to work with after T-Mobile. I can't imagine them releasing a phone on AT&T or Verizon, as their process is grueling. I guess since t…

> However, most sales for smartphones are from contracts sold directly from carriers so it'll be interesting to see how they'll do in the market with their current strategy

Is this still true? I just bought a new phone (on Verizon) and they didn't even have a contract subsidy option anymore. I know T-Mobile also dropped this a couple years ago.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by nkkollaw »

A little expensive IMHO.

I've dropped the iPhone a little more than a year ago. I got a Y6II for $179. Perfect performance, but didn't like Huawei's tweaks to Android.

I just got a Moto G5 Plus with nearly-stock Android and it's the best phone I've ever owned, and I paid only EUR 280 for it.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by epicide »

smichel17 wrote: post #111
sidcool wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously, my phone should just work, it is not an expression of anything.

Playing devil's advocate, is that not itself a statement of sorts?

It is a statement, but not one that his selection of phone is making.

In other words, if he states that's why he got a particular phone, then yes. However, just by having a particular phone, nobody can draw any significant information from it other than he owns a phone.

There is always the significant chance that the person did not choose their phone (e.g. work phone).

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Post by CreepGin »

zitterbewegung wrote: post #213
CreepGin wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, Foxconn bought Sharp last year. One interesting thing I heard (from words of mouth) was Gou decided to follow through with the purchase after Sharp reduced the price by 35%. Gou was mighty proud of the acquisition for awhile until the Japanese Yen devalued considerably, leading him to speculate foul play from the Japanese in the original deal.

So could this be Sharp / Foxconn testing the waters to start selling phones to american consumers?

Not sure about that. The move only seemed to reinforce Foxconn's status as an even bigger supplier.

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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Post by lolsal »

dschep wrote: post #185
lolsal wrote: post #48

> Your phone is your personal property. It’s a public expression of who you are and what you stand for. No, it's really not. It's literally just a tool I use for communication.

Huh. Looks like that's been updated to: > Devices are your personal property. We won’t force you to have anything you don’t want.

Sorry! I quoted from the homepage of the device (poor use of quote indentation, shame on me): https://www.essential.com

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Post by colordrops »

aianus wrote: post #208
Analemma_ wrote: post #199

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> Man, if you actually tried to sell your phones, Sharp, they might have sold? Funny concept. Smartphones are a brutal business to be in, especially in North America, where Apple and Samsung have basically locked up the high end of the market and everyone else is fighting for the scraps (and usually losing tons of money in the process). Probably Sharp just realized there was really no way to break in, especially cons…

> considering they'd have to start from scratch with channels like carrier partnerships, retail presence, and advertising OnePlus has none of these and seems very successful.

Meh, I bought my first OnePlus phone a few months ago and while the phone itself is great, I've been thoroughly unimpressed with their support and unavailability of most accessories, both from OnePlus and 3rd parties. It's a huge turn off and I won't buy another one.
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