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> Your phone is your personal property. It’s a public expression of who you are and what you stand for. No, it's really not. It's literally just a tool I use for communication.

Seriously, my phone should just work, it is not an expression of anything.

Playing devil's advocate, is that not itself a statement of sorts?

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Eh, who has a phone longer than 2 years now?

That's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Many people would keep phones for several years if they weren't designed to be replaced after 2. Thanks to non-replaceable batteries, most phones will barely last half a day after 2 years. That was the only reason I upgraded.

My past iPhones have gone quite a bit longer than 2 years with 24hr+ battery life. But that's probably because they start out with ~72hr battery life (under my use patterns, which are ~20min web browsing, average of a couple pictures or videos a day, nearly zero talk, ~30-40/day whatsapp or text messages, no Facebook or other social media, no gaming. Using navigation or other battery-hungry things cuts into that, of course.)

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wake me up when there is a phone that runs proper linux. with decent drivers.

if anyone told you that you would be using your own computer in "kiosk" mode with a root password you don't have, you would be laughing your ass off. but here we are, all using the 90s equivalent of a library computer.

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It's moot. Apple offers ~3 years of software updates included in the price of the phone. Right now, Android companies COMPLETELY FAIL to match Apple's update value. The idea that Android companies should switch to a paid update subscription model, while iDevices retain free updates for most of device life, would be a hilariously incompetent decision. "They're better than us, we know it, so why not subscribe to us and…

Isn't it more like 4 years, at least on the Phones? I wouldn't mind getting an additional Android device, but two years of upgrades really isn't enough. It's nice to get a new OS upgrade every year.

It can be around 5 years, the iPhone 4S technically had the latest version of iOS from October 2011 to June 2016.

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I admire the gumption of making a new phone. But controlled obsolescence kills me. The real feature that improves in phones the past few years for me is the software and apps, not the hardware . My wishlist: - Give me a lighter, snappier OS. Not something clunkier and slower and uses more ram, gpu/cpu (aka battery life). - Actually support updates to the things for longer than 2-3 years. - (Not related to this phone)…

All I want is to get google fi on an iphone. Ok battery, reasonable lifetime (I can usually get 3.5 years out of an iphone) and cheap international data.

I have a Fi data SIM in an iPhone, and it works great. Not certain if you can sneak a voice SIM in.

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display damaged from factory, no waterproofing, no jack, no SD card, no track record regarding update

no thanks, you are better off with flagship Samsung S8 which cost less

trying to use reputation of someone who was last time around Android in times of Jelly Bean release and who just copied iOS and completely changed original idea after release of iPhone, doesn't seem like that good idea for people who know facts

Re: Essential Phone, available now

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I admire the gumption of making a new phone. But controlled obsolescence kills me. The real feature that improves in phones the past few years for me is the software and apps, not the hardware . My wishlist: - Give me a lighter, snappier OS. Not something clunkier and slower and uses more ram, gpu/cpu (aka battery life). - Actually support updates to the things for longer than 2-3 years. - (Not related to this phone)…

> And physical keyboards. Something for SSH'ing with.

Biggest thing I want is no aux port but __two__ (or more) usb-c ports instead. That way you can do stuff like plug in a keyboard/monitor or other standalone usb devices. I don't want to be forced to use weird all in one hubs for specific use cases. I want the UNIX philosophy with my hardware.

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I, too, think the price point won't help this phone much. Hopefully there will be enough buyers to keep this phone alive. The specs are good and the attachment camera will probably be very useful.

Genuine question, I am waiting for the soon to be announced iPhone 8, but what I am curious about is what is the selling point of this phone? The camera? Security? Why would I want this phone? I don't follow google or their employees companies much. Personally google makes horrible UI's and services IMO. The latest interaction with them by me has been Google fiber + TV. The fiber is fine and fast but the TV is a tire…

I like the drop test results. My pixel's glass chipped when it fell out of my pocket when I was sitting on a concrete floor. First phone I've ever gotten a case for.

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Now we'll know exactly how many Andy Rubin fanboys there are in the world. Why would anyone else buy a $700+ phone from a startup which might not even be there next year? My prediction: a few tens of thousand units will be sold mostly in the US, darn near zero anywhere else.

Can't imagine any actual users caring about Andy Rubin in the slightest. However, they have enough funding to be there long enough to honor their warranty, and the phone really only needs to last two years. But who cares, if the phone works and it has an unlockable bootloader? Someone on XDA will prepare new OS images.
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