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Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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Post by fryguy »

tbirrell wrote: post #258
wj wrote: post #239

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no doubt you are right about the people who rate online (you definitely see it in restaurant ratings and comment sections) but when I rate movies on Netflix I very, very rarely ever rate something a 1 or a 5. I would imagine that 2/3 of what I rate has been a three (so average content for me) and that it takes something special to go up or down from there. Just curious if I am an outlier with how I do my ratin…

I'm the same way. 1 - Terrible. Good Lord, who thought making this was a good idea? 2 - Poor. Would not watch again 3 - Fair. Neither for or against. Unlikely to watch again, but I don't grudge the time spent. 4 - Good. I enjoyed it. I would probably watch again. 5 - Exceptional. Probably in my top 10 now, and foresee enjoying watching for years to come. 3 and 4 are used a lot. 2 is used occasionally. 1 and 5 are rar…

I prefer the Goodreads rating system which compresses 1 and 2:

1 - Did not like it

2 - It was ok

3 - Liked it

4 - Really liked it

5 - It was amazing

The reason being is that most books won't end up being 1 or 2, and there really isn't much difference between them. But it sucks giving 2 stars to something that wasn't bad. Perhaps emoji arranged in a non-star-like pattern would be the best.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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Post by ajmurmann »

sfifs wrote: post #209
pizzetta wrote: post #74

As I posted in the dupe: This saddens me. >Users would rate documentaries with 5 stars, and silly movies with just 3 stars, but still watch silly movies more often than those high-rated documentaries That's not incongruous to me. The stars are not about "enjoyment" factor, they are about perceived quality. I may have a go to cheap ice-cream and rate it 3-stars but rate a good affogato 5-stars and only have it once in…

We've analysed product ratings in the past and found that the online ratings tend to have primarily bimodal distributions. People who rate online welf select and either love something​ and give very good ratings or they dislike and give poor ratings. Unlike surveys where people have to answer questions, only people with extreme reactions tend to answer these online rating questions and you don't get any meaningful di…

I've heard this a lot. When I look at reviews anywhere where there is a star rating and text review the only useful reviews tend to be 2-4 star reviews. 1 and 5 star reviews seem to have a tendency to be outliers or people who are really upset about something that most people won't care about. For example 1 star restaurant reviews that waited for someone to take their order and left because it took too long. I wonder if that could be applied to weighing the ratings accordingly. I have no data to test this unfortunately.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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Post by nissehulth »

bubblethink wrote: post #269
nissehulth wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do like some of their own content. I also like their general business model and I believe (well, I hope) that the stupid geo-restrictions are results of old-school licensing and not active business decisions made by Netflix. But ofc, I wouldn't mind if they had some real competition, I don't want a monopoly.

>(well, I hope) that the stupid geo-restrictions are results of old-school licensing and not active business decisions made by Netflix. Geo-restrictions have existed forever. What Netflix started was actively blocking entire ranges of IPs belonging to vpns and commercial ISPs (cloud providers like aws, dedicated servers like ovh etc.). This should fall under some corollary to net-neutrality where a service cannot dis…

There is a proposal in the EU that would prevent "unjustified geo-blocking" but I'm not holding my breath waiting for it to become law.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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Post by duderific »

svachalek wrote: post #221
k-mcgrady wrote: post #50

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>> Star ratings can be too much detail and cause confusion The iOS App Store is a good example of this. An unbelievable number of people, for some reason, thing 1 star = great and 5 star = bad.

Since the early days of Yelp I learned to read restaurant star ratings: 3.5: Good place, check it out 4.0: Great place, impress your friends > 4.2: Fake

Haha totally agree. I've often wished they would put the actual decimal rating (4.12, 3.56 etc.) because we have no idea what their rounding strategy is. Does 3.99 become 4? How about 3.75? 3.51?

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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Post by Ambroos »

ZeroGravitas wrote: post #33
Ambroos wrote: post #23

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What bothers me is that once you rated something you can't unrate it, or see what the public rating is.

I believe what they display is just a guess at how much you will like it (based on people with similar viewing/rating histories), not a public rating as such, so once you've actually rated it, there's very little reason to show the other figure.

Wait, really? Damn, that explains why I love literally every 5-star-rated thing they serve me!

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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Post by karlshea »

extra88 wrote: post #245
karlshea wrote: post #155

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Honestly one of the only reasons I keep it is because I have so many movies that I've rated and didn't want that time investment to go to waste. I guess now that isn't going to be a factor.

I've rated thousands of movies and shows on Netflix, not just what I streamed or received from Netflix on disc but anything I've seen anywhere that I can recall and came across on their site. Having rated something is also a reminder that I've seen it. I didn't want to lose all that so I downloaded the pages [0]. I'll figure out how to scrape them and put them in a better format some other time. [0] https://www.reddi…

If you go to your ratings page and scroll down so they all load this worked for me (paste into console)

  ratings = [];
  jQuery('li.retableRow').each(function (i, row) { 
    ratings.push({
      id: jQuery(row).find('.title a').attr('href').replace('/title/', ''), 
      title: jQuery(row).find('.title a').text(), 
      rating: jQuery(row).find('.starbar .personal').length 
    }) 
  });
then

  JSON.stringify(ratings)
Or for CSV:

  ratings = '';
  jQuery('li.retableRow').each(function (i, row) { 
    ratings += 
      jQuery(row).find('.date').text() + ',' +
      jQuery(row).find('.title a').attr('href').replace('/title/', '') + ',' +
      '"' + jQuery(row).find('.title a').text().replace('"', '""') + '",' +
      jQuery(row).find('.starbar .personal').length  + "\n"; 
  });
then print out the ratings variable.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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Post by nihonde »

ProAm wrote: post #86
pizzetta wrote: post #74

As I posted in the dupe: This saddens me. >Users would rate documentaries with 5 stars, and silly movies with just 3 stars, but still watch silly movies more often than those high-rated documentaries That's not incongruous to me. The stars are not about "enjoyment" factor, they are about perceived quality. I may have a go to cheap ice-cream and rate it 3-stars but rate a good affogato 5-stars and only have it once in…

> They are diluting the meaning of quality and instead are opting for a saccharine "enjoyment" factor. They are just trying to increase number of views for a poor quality library. This will mask how bad most of the content is and increase their numbers.

Indeed. Note that Netflix has never offered a filter by rating, or the ability to hide already-watched or disliked content.

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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Post by DanBC »

Markoff wrote: post #259
always_good wrote: post #202

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I think you should distribute your TMDB shilling across a few more accounts, mate. I actually recognized your username from one of your shills I found so bad that I linked it to a buddy of mine. Just some of your recent posts on HN: > why would i participate on dumb backup of database, > done without my consent (OP stole 14 years of my posts), > when I can go to proper movie database with discussions, > imported rati…

it's related to discussion for people who prefer normal star ratings instead of retarded thumbs up, so not sure what's your problem, also not sure what's your definition of shill, but I doubt it's someone who doesn't even bother to provide link for his potential victims and who is just regular user of some website where he was forced to move from IMDb not sure where you got some fake outrage from my post, when some t…

> everyone feel free to go through my history to see if I am some account made to spam with TMDb as this expert imply

36 mentions in 76 days.

https://hn.algolia.com/?query=author:Markoff%20tmdb&sort=byP...

Re: Netflix Replacing Star Ratings With Thumbs Ups and Thumbs Down

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Post by extra88 »

karlshea wrote: post #276
extra88 wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've rated thousands of movies and shows on Netflix, not just what I streamed or received from Netflix on disc but anything I've seen anywhere that I can recall and came across on their site. Having rated something is also a reminder that I've seen it. I didn't want to lose all that so I downloaded the pages [0]. I'll figure out how to scrape them and put them in a better format some other time. [0] https://www.reddi…

If you go to your ratings page and scroll down so they all load this worked for me (paste into console) ratings = []; jQuery('li.retableRow').each(function (i, row) { ratings.push({ id: jQuery(row).find('.title a').attr('href').replace('/title/', ''), title: jQuery(row).find('.title a').text(), rating: jQuery(row).find('.starbar .personal').length }) }); then JSON.stringify(ratings) Or for CSV: ratings = ''; jQuery('…

That's the streaming site page which has less information and other problems (follow the link).
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