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Well, right now a Queen doesn't look like such a bad idea..
If Donald Trump was Prime Minister of the UK instead of President of the US, do you think the Queen would stop him from doing something like this? I'm pretty sure the answer is "No".
A demogogue without the support of the party establishment can't become PM of the UK.
What's scary is the new immigration ban affects legal, permanent residents. US legal, permanent residents that have firmly rooted their lives in the US, only to be told they can't come home.
Overall, I don't see this as such a bad thing... But every major decision is going to have its outliers. This is a temp 90-day ban on non-reciprocating countries (and countries of concern), which the FBI said they are not able to properly vet (because those countries will not provide background info on the applicant, and some other reasons). It only affects non-citizens such as visitors, students, or employment visas…
Is 90 days a hard limit, or could another order introduce a further 90 days?
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The quality of a democracy is defined by how well it protects minorities.
Trump voters are a minority, they should be defended also. Geek philosophy (let's pick Yoda this time) applies to Hillary and Donald voters: Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Attack the policies, not the voters, not the president. Convincing will happen with compelling arguments that demonstrate these policies are flawed.
This is a bit of propaganda commonly employed by the racist right (I'm not saying you are racist or a member of that group, but IMHO that's the origin of the concept).
In some sense everybody is a minority and no President every has been elected by a majority (a plurality at best), so taking the word "minority" literally is not meaningful. What is meant by "minorities" is groups that are abused by larger groups due to their overwhelming lack of political power. The people who voted for Trump were never slaves, didn't suffer segregation, weren't lynched, aren't suspected of being illegal, and generally are not excluded from power or opportunity due to their race or ethnicity.
Look at any group of powerful people, from Fortune 500 CEOs to members of Congress and Presidents to Silicon Valley leaders to leaders in academia, the military, actors, chefs, coders or almost any other field - look at any college campus - you don't say, 'wow, there sure aren't many white guys there'. White-skinned people make up 66% of the US population; black-skinned are ~12%, Latino ~16%. Those aren't comparable situations.
That doesn't mean that Trump voters don't have legitimate concerns, but they aren't at all a "minority" in the common meaning of the word.
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Nazism should be swiftly kicked in the ass whenever it rears itself. This is naked white supremacism. For as much bullshit as we've heard about political correctness, why not just come out and say this is straight up religious and racial discrimination?
The easy time to do this was the election. It is much harder to deal with now. The president's Chief Strategist and Senior Counselor is a white nationalist, who used to run Breitbart.com, where there is a distinction made between white supremacists and white nationalists (I cannot explain the distinction, for I don't see one). A site all about how awful multiculturalism is, separation of races is necessary for the su…
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> It's not America that did this it's a minority of America. That's democracy; that is America or else there is no America. All Americans must own this problem, not say that it's not their fault. For one thing, it didn't come from nowhere; Trump's policies merely put in action what many in his party have advocated for years. Yet many smart people I know overlooked it and continued to vote Republican.
How is it a fault of a random guy who didn't vote for Trump?
How this is happening, the exact trajectory of how much worse these things are (and its potential to worsen) is somewhat terrifying, especially when you consider the cavalier disregard and easy ignorance that this policy represents. I know classmates and colleagues and friends who are discussing, in their groups and communities, how to best help people stranded, whether or not vacations and returns to see ill family…
It may also be illegal: https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/trumps-immigrat... The Hart-Celler Act abolished the national origins quota system that had structured American immigration policy since the 1920s, replacing it with a preference system that focused on immigrants' skills and family relationships with citizens or residents of the U.S. http://library.uwb.edu/Static/USimmigration/1965_immigration... Ex…
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I don't think the OP was blaming the Democrats, but rather asking the legitimate question of whether (and how) they are planning to resist. So far, their actions have been rather dismal. For instance, they've voted for most if not all of Trump's cabinet appointments.
Yes, if a Democratic President was doing this, the din from the other camp would be very load. Not a beep from Chuck Schumer or Nancy Peloci?
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If you're one the best and brightest abroad, why would you trust staking a future in this country anymore? Even if what we're seeing now recedes and fades. Huge damage to our future of this country, beyond just the "temporary"-so-far order.
I agree, and that's what I have to say to my former (I graduated) coworker. I'm very much inclined to pack bags, ship my possessions, and leave this country myself. If this is how this government behaves one week in , violating human rights and the Constitution already , what can I expect as a minority who was born here? And what about the people I know without second passports? Should a certain friend refuse to visi…
Trump can't do that. That would take something way beyond an executive order.
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>I thought excessive chauvinism is what led to Trump at first place? I have no idea how you equate him saying "Canadians will welcome you" with chauvanism. And if you're referring to Justin getting his shirt off, that isn't what chauvanism means. (He is actually the exact opposite of the definition of chauvanism).
> him saying "Canadians will welcome you" He didn't say that, I quoted what he said. There is no need to be proud of anything, like a nationality would make someone "more virtuous" and people from other nationalities would be defacto "less virtuous". That's chauvinism.
I was quoting what Justin said. I see you were talking about the OP instead.
>like a nationality would make someone "more virtuous" and people from other nationalities would be defacto "less virtuous"
Being part of a nation that welcomes people seems a good reason to be proud.
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> PR device No. Citizens used it to petition the White House and it worked as designed until recently.
What significant policy changes were initiated by a petition? How many got pretty unserious blow off responses?