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Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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Proud to be Canadian, see our PM's latest tweets https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/825438460265762816

Looks like he has it under control....

McCullom reassures Canadian women: low risk for sexual assaults by Syrian refugees[1]

[1]http://en.cijnews.com/?p=19452

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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Less than half

Roughly half. The point is still valid and it's important not to disregard the momentum of that segment of the country

Nazism should be swiftly kicked in the ass whenever it rears itself.

This is naked white supremacism. For as much bullshit as we've heard about political correctness, why not just come out and say this is straight up religious and racial discrimination?

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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This is another reason why I decided to move back to Europe after I am done studying than trying to work on H1B. I just really do not need the stress of having to worry if I'll be kicked out overnight or not. I would probably be fine, as I am not a Muslim, but still. No thanks. Trump could make "America great again" any minute and just decide to kick out any non-American.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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It's not America that did this it's a minority of America. The rest of us feel like prisoners in our own country when faced with this kind of complete and utter insanity.

> It's not America that did this it's a minority of America. That's democracy; that is America or else there is no America. All Americans must own this problem, not say that it's not their fault. For one thing, it didn't come from nowhere; Trump's policies merely put in action what many in his party have advocated for years. Yet many smart people I know overlooked it and continued to vote Republican.

The quality of a democracy is defined by how well it protects minorities.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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It's really hypocritical that you only start noticing this happening now. The same has happened under Obama. I have a friend who was denied going back to University of Chicago last year https://www.facebook.com/ridakoon/posts/10158098402210427?pn...

Yes, but Obama was on our side, so certain things can be overlooked for the greater good.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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How this is happening, the exact trajectory of how much worse these things are (and its potential to worsen) is somewhat terrifying, especially when you consider the cavalier disregard and easy ignorance that this policy represents. I know classmates and colleagues and friends who are discussing, in their groups and communities, how to best help people stranded, whether or not vacations and returns to see ill family…

Terrifying, how? This is what Trump promised, and the reason we voted for him. Half of us are quite happy to see campaign promises actually implemented. HN is acting as if this was capricious and unplanned. In fact, it's what half of us wanted.

History will judge you harshly.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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This. I am from Turkey, and i will be nervous every passing day from yesterday on, watching news to see if Turkey is added to the list. I am still years away from naturalization, and it saddens me to think about relocating, after having left where i was born for a better and productive life. Nobody chooses their birthplace, but these are the people that decided to make a change, and in a way that historically benefit…

What makes Donald Trump's action so sickenly selfish is that a better life is why his grandfather Friedrich Drumpf immigrated from Bavaria. Though one could argue 3 generations later that act of immigration is not benefitting the US.

Let's just spell it out. They were white Christians and therefore are welcome. Statue of Liberty weeps with sorrow.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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It's not America that did this it's a minority of America. The rest of us feel like prisoners in our own country when faced with this kind of complete and utter insanity.

> It's not America that did this it's a minority of America. That's democracy; that is America or else there is no America. All Americans must own this problem, not say that it's not their fault. For one thing, it didn't come from nowhere; Trump's policies merely put in action what many in his party have advocated for years. Yet many smart people I know overlooked it and continued to vote Republican.

Trump is president due to suspicion of democracy, not because of it. A plurality did not put him in the White House, the Electoral College did.

I agree that it is a trap to only blame Trump voters. Some 43% of eligible voters did not vote at all. Some Democrats didn't vote either because they thought it was a sure thing Trump would not win, or due to their own disaffection with a politically flawed candidate (without any respect to what degree this is deserved). And also the general political dialog in the country is fairly abysmal. Many things have conspired to bring us to this point.

I think Democrats, liberals, progressive, moderates, are all best off focusing on policy disputes rather than personal ones.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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Less than half

Roughly half. The point is still valid and it's important not to disregard the momentum of that segment of the country

Voter turnout was a record low 55%, and Trump lost the popular vote by between three and five million votes, a fact he still refuses to recognize. Trump is not supported by a majority of the US population, and his constant and willful disregard of material fact is reckless.

Re: Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

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Question: Can people outside the US sign the petition as well, or does it have more validity if only US residents sign it? I want to sign it, but don't want it to be used against the petition later if someone in the administration says it is a 'fake petition' because x% of outside the US jurisdiction signed it.

Don't sign if you're not a US citizen, exactly due to the reason you pointed out. We want the numbers as valid as possible, rather than as large as possible.

Well, Trump will just say it was rigged anyway and lots of fake signatures etc.
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