Facebook Doesn’t Tell Users Everything It Really Knows About Them • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook Doesn’t Tell Users Everything It Really Knows About Them

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Post by bestnameever » Sun, Jan 01, 2017, 10:51 PM UTC

greggman wrote: post #186

bigB wrote: post #126

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Why not, you are using their "free" services, and if you would care to read every word of the user agreements then it lays out exactly what they information they "collect". What they "collect" and what they "know" are two different things, using data analysis they can speculate many other aspects of a user with a pretty high degree of accuracy. They should not have to disclose this, the user has given them the data a…

Giving information directly to facebook is one thing. The article is about FB gathering info not directly given to them. Imagine the government put a policeman on every corner and they recorded the movements of every person in the neighborhood at all times. 4:36pm Mr. Jones walked to newsstand, 4:43pm Mrs Jones opens front door, looks around, closes front door. 4:45pm Mr. Smith dog starts barking. 4:51pm Unknown man…

It is rumored that some metro systems are utilizing face recognition technology. Also, I'm pretty sure our license plates are scanned and recorded as we drive throughout cities.

Re: Facebook Doesn’t Tell Users Everything It Really Knows About Them

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Post by herbst » Mon, Jan 02, 2017, 3:24 AM UTC

wheelerwj wrote: post #128

harry8 wrote: post #124

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And yet they underpay and also use their lobbying muscle/money to change laws to keep engineering pay down. Note the sheer desperation to keep the pay secret so it doesn't turn into an auction for scarce resources for engineering talent the way it does with lawyers, bankers, MBA's. If you're in it fore the money don't work for facebrick.

payment is relative. to the rest ofnthe world, all of the SV engineers looks grossly over paid.

Ive made a lower SV salary after my education in Bern Switzerland. I had to pay way less taxes, had benefits included, and cost of living was lower as well.

Re: Facebook Doesn’t Tell Users Everything It Really Knows About Them

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Post by kalleboo » Mon, Jan 02, 2017, 6:35 AM UTC

SamBoogieNYC wrote: post #106

deepsun wrote: post #55

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I have a friend at Facebook. Yes, they do understand that some data they collect is pretty ... private. But since it's good for Facebook -- it's good for them. In all personal discussions they defend the company to the point that I started feeling like there is some mind-washing going on. Of course it's just a feeling, but my point is -- they don't think it is bad.

I heard the urinals at Facebook have a sheet at eye-level where the week's "metric-to-hit" is posted. Methods like this seem to be effective, but creepy and invasive.

The urinals at the rest stops among the highways here have sheets at eye-level telling people not to drive when they're too tired or drunk. Is that creepy and invasive?

Re: Facebook Doesn’t Tell Users Everything It Really Knows About Them

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Post by kminehart » Wed, Jan 04, 2017, 8:28 PM UTC

soared wrote: post #11

O5vYtytb wrote: post #4

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They know your location and proximity to other facebook users.

This is the actual answer. Your phone tried to connect to their wifi and knows they've also connected to that same wifi. With few other quality friend suggestions, these ones popped up.

This is fairly old but if you're curious I have since gotten a new phone and have not connected to their wifi; it was likely their contacts that were uploaded to Facebook which included my number.

Re: Facebook Doesn’t Tell Users Everything It Really Knows About Them

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Post by Kant1984 » Thu, Jan 05, 2017, 5:05 AM UTC

ForrestN wrote: post #39

There must be many HNers who work at Facebook. Anyone willing to make a throwaway account and tell us how it feels from the inside for Facebook to be one the wrong side of so many ethical issues? It just seems like in so many dimensions they've been caught saying wrong things or appearing to outright lie, and I'm curious how developers who work for them think about aiding a company that seems to be so compromised at…

Same for Google and its multiple violations of privacy. Great products, but everything revolves around selling user information to the highest bidder or general establishment Democratic/liberal cronyism.

Will we see a Democrat apply anti-trust laws?