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Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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Simple question.

What happens if spez modifies comments you put on Reddit in the ancient past to make you seem like a Racist, ISIS supporter, Homophobe, or simply puts threats to various heads of state in your name?

Can you really trust him not do to so? What if one day he decides that golang is bad because they are badmouthing something that spez really likes?

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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If he just left reddit and deleted his account, that's one thing. Shutting down the community and deleting the content is another. But going through steps to make sure that community can never rebuilt itself after it's gone is so far beyond a protest against one person that I can't even believe it's being considered. Literally, in that Google Groups conversation they said they wanted to delete everything and make it…

There has to be a less destructive way than to simply delete the subreddit, perhaps put up a date that new post will be disallowed and links to other official Forums. Then when posts are no longer allowed, leave a read only copy up for some time, then leave nothing but the links to other communities.

Why even disallow new posts? What's the point? It's not an official support forum, he shouldn't have the right to shut down a community site and bar people from using it.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

#273

I was the one who proposed deleting /r/golang. It is not some official Go or Google position. As much as I used to love Reddit and was addicted to it, my personal position is that Reddit is no longer a trustworthy platform (if it ever was). Editing user content is beyond offensive. I never even considered such a thing in my years of running LiveJournal. That is a major violation of user trust and trust in the platfor…

Only played with it a bit in the early days, but someone has an open source distributed reddit clone called Aether

http://getaether.net/

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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> Now I'm brainstorming how one might build a federated Reddit with public, signed mutation log, ala CT or other chains. And then multiple UIs could render the same public & federated data set. Reddit is 100% open source: https://github.com/reddit/reddit

No, the voting algorithm is not open sourced.

The only part not open sourced is the spam filters.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

#275

I was the one who proposed deleting /r/golang. It is not some official Go or Google position. As much as I used to love Reddit and was addicted to it, my personal position is that Reddit is no longer a trustworthy platform (if it ever was). Editing user content is beyond offensive. I never even considered such a thing in my years of running LiveJournal. That is a major violation of user trust and trust in the platfor…

>Now I'm brainstorming how one might build a federated Reddit with public, signed mutation log, ala CT or other chains. And then multiple UIs could render the same public & federated data set.

The tricky thing is that the admin team is still doing things that you want and need out of a reddit alternative. For example, ensuring that child pornography isn't getting shared. The question is how to set things up so that the right content gets removed while ensuring that how we decide what the right content to remove gets isolated from political pressures that want to influence the narrative.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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> replacing the content with content against the rules of the subreddit. Thus when subreddit mods saw content that was against the rules, they banned the victims' accounts Got a source for this? From what I've read about what happened (not a whole lot), this seems like it's been passed through multiple rounds of the telephone game. All solid information I've heard, and seen directly admitted, is that he edited mentio…

Yes, it's against the /r/the_donald rules to insult the /r/the_donald mods. Here's an /r/the_donald mod saying they banned some of the users by mistake after /u/spez edited their comment. https://np.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5ekdy9/the_admin...

... thank you, I have now changed my opinion of his actions from "morally dubious and dumb" to "morally dubious but absolute genius trolling"

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

#277
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Do you have any proof of this? I haven't heard this before and they certainly have an active enough community to push things to the r/all quickly.

Trump supporters turned out to be 47% of voters and it's been said many times he had a strong base of energized young people. It's entirely possible it's fully legitimate in my mind at least.

In other words, no, you have no evidence.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

#278
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This is asinine and it going through would seriously harm how mature I assumed the community around Golang was (actually reading through those posts already did, but either way I guess I'm just one person right?). The CEO edited a comment and admitted he edited it, and it was stupid, and he shouldn't have done it. I'm 100% sure there is a way for someone at any given platform they'd choose to replace it with to acces…

Someone has to make a stand. People moving their communities off of reddit is a great thing. That place is a disorganized, broken, low quality cess pool. Let's skip the "B-B-But you have to find the good small subreddits!". Even those are mostly shit and in-jokes. Reddit is a former shell of its past. >Spez's actions harm himself more than users of the site. If people like you keep defending him for really no reason.…

As an active member of a half dozen "good, small subreddits", there actually are some really great communities on Reddit if you can find them. I don't disagree that much of Reddit is a goddam mess, but there absolutely are some redeeming subs.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

#279

This is asinine and it going through would seriously harm how mature I assumed the community around Golang was (actually reading through those posts already did, but either way I guess I'm just one person right?). The CEO edited a comment and admitted he edited it, and it was stupid, and he shouldn't have done it. I'm 100% sure there is a way for someone at any given platform they'd choose to replace it with to acces…

> The CEO edited a comment and admitted he edited it, and it was stupid, and he shouldn't have done it.

The only reason I've heard that this even remotely defensible is because it was against Trump supporters.

I'm sorry, but that doesn't cut it with many of us.[1]

I don't care about political beliefs. He abused his power in such an obvious & egregious way that he should be terminated.

[1] And not that it should matter, I hate Trump as much as the vast majority of Reddit & Hacker News.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

#280

This is asinine and it going through would seriously harm how mature I assumed the community around Golang was (actually reading through those posts already did, but either way I guess I'm just one person right?). The CEO edited a comment and admitted he edited it, and it was stupid, and he shouldn't have done it. I'm 100% sure there is a way for someone at any given platform they'd choose to replace it with to acces…

> What is there on /r/Golang that they expect to see edited?

This is an insane question to ask. This is as flawed as arguing for mass surveillance because you have nothing to hide now.

The questions should instead be "can we trust our comments to not be edited when management disagrees?". What if future management starts loving python so much they decide to do something malicious to other programming languages? It wouldn't be hard to really hurt Go with the eyes of 25,000 Gophers subscribed.

All sites have this ability but few successful ones have demonstrated a willingness to use it. I fully expect that if Twitter or Facebook were caught doing this we would see an enormous backlash and huge drop in stock price. Then shortly after stockholders would demand the CEO leave.

EDIT - If you must downvote, please comment so we can discuss.

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