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Re: Elementary OS

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Post by ant6n »

tigershark wrote: post #167
_qc3o wrote: post #153

I really don't understand why developers use macs at all. They're not good dev machines. All production systems I work with are some flavor of linux (mostly ubuntu). There is actually a real impedance mismatch when I'm using my mac for work purposes. All those cores and RAM become meaningless when I have to do everything in a VM anyway. My personal dev machine is a project sputnik running ubuntu 16.04. I can understa…

Maybe because after decades I'm frankly pissed of all the infinite glitches in windows and Linux and I want something that just works? Every hour spent in fighting those problems is real money that I lose, but above all I want to write code, not to fight with a machine. I'm not 16 anymore (when I had all the time of this world and when I even enjoyed the fight), now I just want to use my time to write code instead of…

I spent a lot of time fighting with macs to get it to behave like other operating systems. Like setting up the terminal to not look stupid.

A lot of time was spent fighting to get tap-to-drag without a release delay. Still nope.

Overall, it can be a pretty infuriating operating system as well.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by voltagex_ »

gravypod wrote: post #73
rcarmo wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There were people trying to get Pantheon onto AUR. No idea how that's going.

Just like everything in the AUR I presume. It probably works, but when it stops doing that you're never going to get it working again.

Have you got an example of something on the AUR "never working again"? I'm assuming you mean some kind of dependency problem?

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by paulannesley »

jmiserez wrote: post #188
djhworld wrote: post #150

I bought a 2015 MBP back in January, so I'm all set for a few years at least. Whether OSX goes down the pan even more, I don't know. Moving to Linux seems like a romantic idea, but I can forsee there being a number of problems that would make it unfeasible for me 1. I use 1Password, no Linux client 2. Spotify client is no longer being developed for Linux 3. YouNeedABudget software is not Linux compatible - I have 2+…

1. 1Password apparently works fine with WINE, but I haven't used it myself. 2. Spotify will still receive updates for Linux, they just don't have a dedicated Linux developer on it anymore. On my machine it still works fine. 3. I prefer GoodBudget, which IMHO is much better than YNAB, especially when it comes to their iOS/Android apps. The desktop client just runs in the browser. Also, I've heard YNAB will be disconti…

> 1Password apparently works fine with WINE, but I haven't used it myself.

I run 1Password in Wine in Docker on my (secondary) linux ThinkPad with Dropbox sync. It works, but it's clunky. Part of that is that I don't like the Windows 1Password application compared to the macOS one, though.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by Frondo »

metafunctor wrote: post #248
mavelikara wrote: post #9

My mini Ask HN: After over a decade of using Mac OS X, I am considering switching to Linux for my dev laptop. The tools I worry about are those that interact with audio and webcam - Go To Meeting, Google Hangout etc. My work involves me having to teleconf with others often. Does anyone here have experience using Linux well in such scenarios. If so, what hardware are you using? Also, does sleep-on-closing-lid work wel…

This is why I still choose to go with Mac OS X, even if their most recent hardware is very, very expensive. I don't have time to tinker with compiling kernels, configuring X11, figuring out which photo management software to use, setting up reliable backups, getting my Bluetooth headset to work, and, yes, getting the machine to suspend when I close the lid and wake up when I open it. These are basics that will just w…

Gosh, frankly speaking, I haven't had to do any of that stuff (except for the Bluetooth headset, I never had one of those, no idea how it works) in 7 years.

In 2009 I installed Mandriva on a laptop--everything just worked. In 2011, I jumped ship to Mageia, the community-driven offshoot of Mandriva. Everything still just worked. Fast forward several laptops later, including mine and friends' and relations' laptops, and it all just works. Compiling a kernel? Wouldn't know how anymore. Fiddling with X11? No idea. I don't even have problems with Pulseaudio.

Compare that to dual booting this one with Windows 10. For several months, Windows 10 had a bug where it wouldn't save the touchpad settings. Every time, I'd have to disable tap-to-click. UGH. They finally fixed it, but what a pain.

(And when I had an OS X machine, received as part of payment for a job... between the beach ball and the not-infrequent crashes, where the screen dims and displays that fatal error message, it was a pain to get any work done.)

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by Whitestrake »

jayroh wrote: post #177
compuguy wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I managed a internal version of jitsi meet, its great, but it has had a bunch of glitches and issues with parties with more than ~15 people on it.

Heeeey so, if we're talking about potential alternatives here? I need to just leave this here and encourage anyone looking for something better to take a look: https://www.meetspaceapp.com Full disclaimer: I'm a friend of the founder, however I'm a paying customer due to the fact that 1. It's worked wonders with my clients and 2. It's so much better than hangouts or skype. Compared to the big boys it may be considere…

Looks like your friend is serving a herokuapp.com certificate for his meetspaceapp.com domain. Should really get that fixed.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by Gracana »

CGamesPlay wrote: post #151
maratc wrote: post #149

Now I need a decent terminal (iTerm2-like quality) and a sane set of shortcuts (like a shortcut for "Copy" that doesn't stop processes in terminal) and I'd be all set...

This is probably the #1 reason why I still want to use mac OS every day. Emacs-style editing shortcuts and not having to press Ctrl-Shift-C to copy when I'm in my terminal window (alternatively, not having to remember to press Ctrl-Shift-C to copy but only when I'm in my terminal window).

Yep, I really like this about Mac OS X. The fact that I can c-w to kill a word anywhere or c-u to kill a line is pretty nice. And OS-level copy/paste has the same shortcut everywhere, like you say. I think it was a mistake for Windows and linux to use control as the default meta-character for gui operations. I always switch it to super if I can.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by AdmiralAsshat »

rkv wrote: post #130

Are there any differences between this and Debian + Pantheon?

A couple:

- eOS is built on top of Ubuntu rather than Debian

- The team doesn't officially support Pantheon outside of eOS, so you've probably got it from an unofficial PPA that could break with the next version.

- I don't think the Pantheon DE would get you eOS's included apps like Geary.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by eyko »

butterm wrote: post #144

I am using elementary OS for the past one and a half years, and honestly speaking, I am in love with it. I am a long time Linux user, and whenever I get a chance, I tell people about all the great things about Linux and why it's better than Windows and the MacOS. But there was always one aspect of Linux that I always felt a bit uneasy about, and this was design/UI/UX/accessibility of the many popular distributions. I…

> and whenever I get a chance, I tell people about all the great things about Linux and why it's better than Windows and the MacOS.

People like this bore me to death. Let's be frank - you're just biased and you're probably wrong, despite all your good intentions. What OS you prefer is a matter of taste and of choice, and there's no "better" or "worse" unless you're so narrow minded as to only measure an operating system's worth by the features that happen to put your chosen OS ahead. These days if I was a dedicated gamer I'd probably say Windows. In fact, after the Surface Studio presentation, it's tempting as a creative platform.

I used one form or another of Linux on my main desktops and laptops since 2002, until 2009. In 2009 I bought a Macbook and since then I've switched to OS X (or macOS) as my main OS of choice. I still install GNU coreutils on macOS, and still keep a separate desktop at home with Linux on it - appropriately named `lab` in my home network.

So, in 2016 my main laptop is a Macbook Air with macOS on which I do most of my work, my desktop is running various flavours of linux (arch which i keep the most updated, but also alpine, ubuntu, fedora... etc easily accessible in grub). Don't lecture us on what OS is better, we've made a decision and it doesn't have to be the same as yours.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by syrrim »

SwellJoe wrote: post #88
mavelikara wrote: post #9

My mini Ask HN: After over a decade of using Mac OS X, I am considering switching to Linux for my dev laptop. The tools I worry about are those that interact with audio and webcam - Go To Meeting, Google Hangout etc. My work involves me having to teleconf with others often. Does anyone here have experience using Linux well in such scenarios. If so, what hardware are you using? Also, does sleep-on-closing-lid work wel…

"Also, does sleep-on-closing-lid work well?" Funny story: My new-ish Dell laptop (Inspiron 15 7559 i7 with 4k touchscreen display; which I got at an absurdly low sales price from the Dell outlet store) does not reliably recover from sleep under Windows, but does under Linux (neither worked when I first got the laptop, but now only Windows fails and now only some of the time). That's a first, for me, as I have had a h…

Did you do anything to fix your sleep recovery issues on Linux, or did it get resolved by chance?

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by bootload »

"in what I can only call a tremendously good example of how not to copy Apple‘s mistakes, the built-in Music app looks a lot like iTunes, but without any of the bloat."

Not a bad writeup. For me music is via XTools->mplayer

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