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Re: Elementary OS

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Post by matt_kantor »

rcarmo wrote: post #46
insertnickname wrote: post #38

Loading this page with JS disabled, all the images are blurred. Loading it with JS, there's a fancy fade-in animation on the images. What is the point of this? Why would you intentionally distort the images for people who browse with JS disabled?

It's a simple approach to lazy loading, so that you only download the images you actually want to view on a phone as you scroll to them. (I also pick the right kind of image depending on your display DPI, and resize them on the back-end, but that's beside the point here) I get a _lot_ of mobile visitors, and mobile bandwidth is expensive, so I'm considerate to them - folk with JavaScript disabled know how to re-enabl…

The images did not load at all for me the first time I went to the page. There were just blank spaces at odd places and it wasn't until halfway through the article that I realized there were supposed to be images. I also saw some raw markdown-looking text like "[foo][f]", though other formatting and links rendered correctly. I'm using Firefox 49 on Ubuntu 16.04.

I just refreshed again and everything seems to be working now.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by nkoren »

insertnickname wrote: post #38

Loading this page with JS disabled, all the images are blurred. Loading it with JS, there's a fancy fade-in animation on the images. What is the point of this? Why would you intentionally distort the images for people who browse with JS disabled?

For the same reason that you would intentionally clutter up the document with HTML markup tags for people who are browsing on a teletype machine.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by butterm »

I am using elementary OS for the past one and a half years, and honestly speaking, I am in love with it. I am a long time Linux user, and whenever I get a chance, I tell people about all the great things about Linux and why it's better than Windows and the MacOS. But there was always one aspect of Linux that I always felt a bit uneasy about, and this was design/UI/UX/accessibility of the many popular distributions. I liked ubuntu the most in this regards, but after they moved to Unity, I had to ditch it. But then I found Elementary, and have never looked back. Elementary combines the freedom and transparency of open source with beautiful design. I have never seen an OS that scores high on so many different factors.

There's a lot of discussion here about the stock apps in elementary. However, since I am an experienced Linux user, I don't really care about stock apps. The Linux app ecosystem is extremely diverse, and over the years, I have found my best solution for each task. For example, Clementine for music, Atom for text editing etc. So these apps get installed immediately after every installation of elementary and then I never look back at the stock apps again.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by Brakenshire »

pmlnr wrote: post #127

I've been an elementaryOS user for years and I ended up dropping the whole thing in favour of xfwm4 + synapse + tint2. eOS is a really nice looking thing, but it's buggy, release after release it's losing features, like [1] - this specific one was never fixed in the previous release. The built-on music app collapses under a reasonable amount of music, same as banshee or quod libet can easily handle. Geary, the mail a…

> Geary, the mail app looks nice, but lacks basic features and has a tendency to corrupt IMAP folders.

Geary was forked after Yorba wound down, and Elementary are moving it over to the Evolution backend, incidentally.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by confounded »

throwaway13337 wrote: post #17

A desktop linux could really grab an audience right now with the current state of windows and the agnosticism that is common in today's applications. The problem with desktop linux has always been that polish isn't quite there. Things like handling gracefully video card/dual monitor, audio switching, and sleep mode recovery end up being headaches that use up a lot of time googling around and generally learning about…

Closest thing to an off the shelf Linux MBP: https://puri.sm/

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by Brakenshire »

usaphp wrote: post #112

Funny how everyone here in comments and author is saying "I really like Elementary OS" but nobody really wants/is ready to use it.

I've been using it for the last 2/3 years. Started using it because my computer was old, and it was a lot faster than Ubuntu, and much more polished (in my opinion) than XFCE or LFCE, and have used it ever since. Has worked really well. Definitely has one or two persistent bugs, though. There was a really annoying cursor one for a long time, and then one with window focus which Ubuntu also suffered from. It's also annoying not to be able to do updates in place. To be fair, I think they are often upstream issues, Ubuntu also was waiting for that upstream focus fix for a long time. But it does mean they're not yet fulfilling the promise of a completely seamless, polished, Linux distribution.

For the moment, for my use case it's the best distribution, but it's not quite at the stage where I'd want to put it on a relative's computer, and I think given their stated aims that's the litmus test.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by rcarmo »

pjmlp wrote: post #85
ant6n wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you will only ever do macos, then why read and then comment (dismissively) on another OS..

Because I think people are overreacting. UNIX support was never a goal for macOS, neither for NeXT, rather a nice way to bring developers from Sun and SGI into their platforms. The business value for developers was always the Objective-C libraries, which is quite clear from most presentations done by Jobs, some of them available on YouTube. It is as if some people needed this week's presentation to wake up for the re…

I used A/UX. For real, because at the time we had VAXen and Suns, and it was a good way to make use of the 68030 Macs we had (I think it never ran on the IIfx, which had a 68040)

I have no delusions about Apple culture. But apparently you're forgetting that Apple heavily marketed OSX's association with UNIX after the merge with NeXT, and that it made a lot of noise about how the Mac would be the best UNIX workstation ever.

I lived through those years and saw the same presentations you mentioned - some on VHS tapes that were shipped to us after the events. There was no toying about OSX as a workstation, it was even on the sales pitch guides.

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by maratc »

Now I need a decent terminal (iTerm2-like quality) and a sane set of shortcuts (like a shortcut for "Copy" that doesn't stop processes in terminal) and I'd be all set...

Re: Elementary OS

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Post by djhworld »

I bought a 2015 MBP back in January, so I'm all set for a few years at least. Whether OSX goes down the pan even more, I don't know.

Moving to Linux seems like a romantic idea, but I can forsee there being a number of problems that would make it unfeasible for me

1. I use 1Password, no Linux client

2. Spotify client is no longer being developed for Linux

3. YouNeedABudget software is not Linux compatible - I have 2+ years of financial transactions in there...

4. Google Drive, no (official) Linux client

5. I have a number of Alfred workflows, and enjoy using Alfred in general.

Yes, there are a number of open source alternatives, but I've built up enough inertia on OSX it's going to be very difficult for me to switch.

There are things about OSX that couldn't care less about like iTunes, Apple Maps etc, but overall it's not so bad

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