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HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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In the case of automated multi-ton death machines moving at high-speed near other people, that seems totally reasonable. You shouldn't be allowed to tinker with your automated car and risk everyone else's lives.

If part of the deal with getting the car is full manufacturer liability insurance, sure. Otherwise, fuck them.

Don't buy them. I don't see why you want to control what other people buy though.

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On principle I hate the idea of encouraging people to submit reviews for products that they haven't purchased. It's a crime worse than time-bombing generic printer cartridges and makes online reviews basically worthless. I don't give a shit about your moral stand against HP. Give me an honest review of a product you own or don't say anything.

Disagree. You don't have to own a product to write an honest review of it. You don't need to have a Galaxy that caught fire to warn others of what's happening. I'm going to leave a 1-star review because my review is an accurate description of the product even though I haven't owned it. The real problem is people who review products on unrelated issues, like the political positions of the CEO.

Is a one star review really an accurate description of "replacement ink is expensive"? I mean, if the printer literally self combusted and burned your house down when 3rd party ink was used, that seems like it would be worse, but one star is already as low as we can go.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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On principle I hate the idea of encouraging people to submit reviews for products that they haven't purchased. It's a crime worse than time-bombing generic printer cartridges and makes online reviews basically worthless. I don't give a shit about your moral stand against HP. Give me an honest review of a product you own or don't say anything.

It is an honest review of the product, though. If you know for a fact that the particular model of printer is designed to take cartridges with forced expiration dates, then it is about a characteristic of the product which you consider bad enough to rate it 1 start. This is very different than, hypothetically, going over all HP products in Amazon and giving 1 star because, say, HP sued someone you don't think they sh…

I'm curious to know if the scoring rubric that emits one star for printers with expensive ink was developed before this story, or invented as post hoc justification. An expensive but otherwise functional printer seems more like about three stars, no?

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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There's the Epson Eco-Tank series. Ink is in four bottles at the side of the machine, good for about 4000-6000 pages. Refill with Epson ink bottles or (a bit more messily) from bulk ink. The printer costs about $279. You do have to clean the print heads occasionally. That's the price of long life print heads.

Already got an epson printer thats working well? you can buy an Inklink that fits to it much like the ecotank - much cheaper and saves you $1000's www.rihac.com.au

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

#275
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There's the Epson Eco-Tank series. Ink is in four bottles at the side of the machine, good for about 4000-6000 pages. Refill with Epson ink bottles or (a bit more messily) from bulk ink. The printer costs about $279. You do have to clean the print heads occasionally. That's the price of long life print heads.

Already got an epson printer thats working well? you can buy an Inklink that fits to it much like the ecotank - much cheaper and saves you $1000's www.rihac.com.au

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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If part of the deal with getting the car is full manufacturer liability insurance, sure. Otherwise, fuck them.

Don't buy them. I don't see why you want to control what other people buy though.

That's a pretty naive.

The big three made the same dumb arguments a hundred years ago... third party parts have never been a problem. People fought hard for the right to get replacement parts, and it's a shame we need to re-fight this battle because of the lemmings among us.

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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Such behaviour is the reason I threw out a perfectly working HP OfficeJet one day and will never buy a single HP printer in my life. In the OfficeJet in question I only used genuine cartridges, but every few year it would stop receiving black and white faxes because (the nearly full) color cartidge was passing its expiry date - forcing me to throw away the full color cartridge and buying a new one.

what are you using now?

Re: HP Allegedly Time Bombs Unofficial Ink Cartridges from Working in Its Printers

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The problem comes when a small subset of unhappy users... creates a mountain of bad reviews. "It never happened to me, or any HP printer I've ever dealt with, but I read online that..." I'd put a 5 star review on my Samsung Note. Why? Because my phone didn't explode. Hell... my phone has been through the RINGER and it still works. Can I give it a 6 star? But because of a small SMALL subset of users that have issues w…

So if you haven't been killed by taking counterfeit or misleading cancer-drugs you don't have a right to call out the fraud? You don't appear to have thought this all the way through... Of your examples, only HP intended to make a crappy product. Apple and Samsung tried to make a better one (thinner, more battery life, etc) and just made some mistakes. Mistakes deserve pointing out, intentional dishonesty does deserv…

I've thought it through and the outcome is the same: A mountain of reviews by people who are most likely unaffected... before facts are established... and guilt is proven.

A modern day witch hunt.

I've "thought it through" and came to a different conclusion than you.

I've concluded that modern day "warriors" decide that mistakes must be highlighted in any way possible before all the facts are known. BURN THE WITCH!!!

SJW's care more about the fight than about actual truth and real justice.

There are more than a few instances of BURN THE WITCH! followed by "Woops, the facts say something different". Rarely followed by an apology.

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