I can barely hold the attention of someone, developers included, when discussing my coding projects. I cannot imagine how difficult it would be if it wasn't even on Github. I'm a small developer, I don't really have the privilege to choose.
Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
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Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
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No, being "neutral" is not "taking a side", that's the definition of the word. If you pre-moderate you open a whole can of worms. What will they ban next? This makes me not want to use Codeberg ever because it's not plannable.
If you're going to jump ship because they're banning AI slop, then I think the feature is working as intended.
Why do you think you can judge my code and how I program from a comment?
Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
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Forgejo is fairly simple to run – way lighter and simpler than GitLab even. (GitLab is quite okay, too!) If you want a hosted service, go for Codeberg. It’s run by a German non-profit (so it’ll be hard to bite and switch OpenAI-style). Only free/open source projects are accepted, though.
How is Codeberg connectivity from outside Europe, nowadays?
From my experience, things are looking great from East and Southeast Asia. Why?
Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
#264Fake news
Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
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Is your complaint about Anubis? I see the "checking if you are human" kind of text too when going to codeberg, but it is usually only a second or two. It is because I run a bit of obfuscation and resistance to browser finger printing. But you find seeing the text for a couple of seconds too annoying to use codeberg? Maybe it is more than 2 seconds for you? Everyone has their views on what is acceptable in the world a…
No, the issue is when i visited i got a page of senseless drivel (maybe https://lib.rs/crates/iocaine ) with the message i was a bot. There was no way around it except "contact support" as the message said the fix, to solve it myself, was to not be a bot. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48845668 explains it better than i did. I accessed through mobile, maybe got a bad ip, i don't don't know. But i never could ac…
Ah! Thank you for the more in depth explanation. I was not aware that codeberg had such a system. As others pointed out, it is probably iocaine.
Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
#266Yeah over on Mastodon, there's a few really nasty threads about Codeberg requesting voting for approved folks to ban ALL "AI". Of course, it aint going well. https://tldr.nettime.org/@tante/116880003584050912
What do you mean, it ain’t going well? It looks like the measure is going to pass, that’s the ideal outcome.
Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is your complaint about Anubis? I see the "checking if you are human" kind of text too when going to codeberg, but it is usually only a second or two. It is because I run a bit of obfuscation and resistance to browser finger printing. But you find seeing the text for a couple of seconds too annoying to use codeberg? Maybe it is more than 2 seconds for you? Everyone has their views on what is acceptable in the world a…
> only a second or two If only we had research on the effect of a second or two's effect on user experience. I wouldn't have a problem with it if it was on expensive endpoints like search or deep history dives, where it matters for server load. But it's every single page, out of some strange sense of righteousness.
ridiculous to call it righteousness when it's allowing the servers to stay functioning
Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
#268I tried codeberg, used it a year, then early this year in all their wisdom codeberg decided to show adverserial random text instead of my repo, reporteldly to mess up llm training to user agents they weren't sure were human. Codeberg had one job, serve my repo, it didn't do that, when brought up, I was told it was a feature not a bug, they could maybe whitelist me but that wasn't my problem, it was that random people…
That's the reason I left as well. I complained, was told I need to drop the attitude, or leave. so I left. must be harder than I think running a src forge
Today it appears you have two options
1) Anubis or similar
2) Accept that 90-95% of your traffic is LLM scrapers fetching every file for every commit for every repo etc etc. There's some comments above with specific lists.
Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
#269Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's the reason I left as well. I complained, was told I need to drop the attitude, or leave. so I left. must be harder than I think running a src forge
Today it appears you have two options 1) Anubis or similar 2) Accept that 90-95% of your traffic is LLM scrapers fetching every file for every commit for every repo etc etc. There's some comments above with specific lists.
I built bot detection into the web framework I wrote. It's blocking well over >90% of the abuse.
The secret 3rd option is write some code.
Re: Why developers are ditching GitHub for Codeberg and self-hosting alternatives
#270I hope some developers will see this message. I know that you work however you wish and you do what you wanna do, but there is a lot of people that will refuse to signup for GitHub (for many reasons), and in consequence, won't contribute to your project. I'm sorry if it sounded a bit off or I offended someone by stating this.