Why would you cite a Bloomberg reference in the article? Are you completely tone deaf on open source software and private ownership and use of 3d printers? FFS don’t direct traffic towards an opponent of free software.
Never Give Them Your Face
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#262Thank you, ChatGPT, very interesting.
I agree with the article, but the LLM-isms cheapen it by two orders of magnitude.
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#263I quit facebook over a decade ago. Then, a few months back, I was under some pressure to sell something, and the facebook marketplace appears to be the way to go locally. So I tried to create a facebook account. They wanted to scan my face, and in a moment of weakness, I performed the ritual. Thirty seconds later, they suspended my account due to violations of their terms of service: "this decision cannot be appealed…
When a xiaomi 15 phone asks to scan your face for phone unlock, it specifically warns that a photo of you may be sufficient to unlock the phone. Not sure how it works with other brands/models, but i don’t think the way they are doing face verification is the right way to do it
Apple's devices use an IR depth scanner, not the camera, and do not expose the data to software.
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#264I quit facebook over a decade ago. Then, a few months back, I was under some pressure to sell something, and the facebook marketplace appears to be the way to go locally. So I tried to create a facebook account. They wanted to scan my face, and in a moment of weakness, I performed the ritual. Thirty seconds later, they suspended my account due to violations of their terms of service: "this decision cannot be appealed…
It should also be noted Facebook does nothing in good faith because Zuckerberg's core personality is what it is It isn't that biometrics might never make sense but when it comes to Facebook? He's a black hat hacker who deserves prison
To the downvoter: please note Facebook used email passwords. Zuckerberg hacked Crimson reporters who were investigating him circa 2003. I mean what I said. Why do you have the 500 karma necessary to do that?
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#265I quit facebook over a decade ago. Then, a few months back, I was under some pressure to sell something, and the facebook marketplace appears to be the way to go locally. So I tried to create a facebook account. They wanted to scan my face, and in a moment of weakness, I performed the ritual. Thirty seconds later, they suspended my account due to violations of their terms of service: "this decision cannot be appealed…
we programmatically created a system with implicit trust and now that trust is washing away. business logic should probably be guaranteed and have to pass a series of tests in order to provide expected service
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#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
While the panic is indeed nothing new, Meta could have chosen a path of solidarity across the tech industry, lobbying for the ways age/identity verification makes people of all ages less safe, especially in the context of phishing and data harvesting. Instead, its strategy has become to advocate for increasing the net levels of tracking and regulatory burden, so long as it is positioned to burden other parts of the t…
The next question is why alphabet, apple, even Microsoft aren't opening their purses to push back on this? They're going to be the ones in court for false negatives.
They don't particularly mind.
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#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
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If you are a business that wants to advertise, there’s not much out there besides Meta and Google, so if they don’t pick up the phone, I guess we just won’t advertise online (back to radio spots and the local newspaper which for a small shop is fine I guess)
So, Meta are certainly happy to take advertiser money (except when they aren't, apparently), and demonstrably triple-digit-billion-dollars worth of people are happy to pay them, so something somewhere must be working, but I still don't understand...
...who the hell buys anything from Facebook ads? I never have, no-one I know ever has. Is my bubble seriously that strong?
I admit, I do click on Facebook ads every so often. This likely means Meta gets paid, and also some number somewhere goes up which means I get shown more of the kind of things I click on. This is how I end up seeing adverts for hi-vis vests for poultry, radioactive pendants (sturdy titanium, reliably glows for 25 years!), tungsten cubes and so on; because I see them and I think "what the actual..." and I click, because you can comment on Facebook adverts and maybe there is some kind of sanity to be found; and, as expected, the comments are full of confused people saying "what the actual..." none of whom are any more likely to buy the product than me.
Has anyone here, but especially of the people considering using Facebook to advertise their product/service, ever bought anything from a Facebook ad? What was it?
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#268This is a little bit of a tangent compared to the post, but can someone explain to me why it's NOW that we have multiple countries (USA, Canada, UK, Australia, and probably others that I am not aware of) all looking at age verification for a technology (the internet and all the things it lets you access) has existed for over 2 decades, and has been mature for at least 10 years? You could buy illicit drugs and watch p…
Rich people are panicking because they’ve seen a capital-poor country win a war with cheap drones and want to lock down as many technologies as they can, lest the ruled realize they can actually do something about their rulers.
I don't know if they have that level of coordination. To me it seems that they just want to grab as much money and power for themselves while it's possible before considering any interests of their social class.
I don't know if the ruled can really do anything. All these countries, even if they are poorer on paper, are still nation-level actors with power that regular people can't even dream of matching.
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#269There is actually a way to prove the age anonymously. Yubikey-like devices support attestation - they can have a private key proving authenticity of a device. So some organization could release Yubikeys with a certain private key and distribute them in stores that allow only adult customers - like liquor stores or sex shops. Owning a key proves that one is adult without disclosing identity. Keys support USB and bluet…
You're missing the point. The complaints are consistently that age/children is just an excuse for control. Your comment is ironically, "offtopic". The rage is about forced identification.
Although, pointing out how actual age verification would work won't hurt. It helps to make it more clear that these pending laws are draconian.
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#270The problem is that for most people, facial recognition is just another method of account verification. Sometimes worse than alternatives, but also sometimes more convenient, and convenience wins over privacy if people are not actively made aware of the consequences.