I sincerely hope this can all be disabled.
Siri AI
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Re: Siri AI
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Oh I’m definitely not going to use it. But apple tends to try to put these things in your face and get you to use them (seen all those purple buttons in Pages lately?). A global “just don’t show me or try to get me to use this crap at all” switch would be very welcome. Bonus if it also frees up however many GB of space this garbage will take whether I use it or not.
You don’t know what’s in your face until you use Copilot.
No worries I would never touch anything Microsoft with a 10-foot pole.
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What’s your source for this? Opening up an API does not mean that everything on the phone is accessible to anybody.
They’re actively asking developers to index all the content in their apps, to provide Personal Context that Siri can use for user requests. And to create/index the actions available in the app. So, where developers comply, all of that content is now accessible to those alternative implementations. It’s not full read/write of the phone, and it’d exclude obvious secrets like passwords, but it is quite far reaching acce…
Could the restriction not be the device owner choosing to use it? If some rando vibe coded an app and the os told me all the things it can access, I'd probably want to trust the developer before installing it. Why do I need to beg Apple's permission to use software better than their first party offering?
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I'll believe this when pigs fly. There's a 0% chance it will work. Most websites I've seen have one or all of: * Force you to use email or SMS as a "second factor" to unlock changing password even if you know the old password * A stupid idea of password complexity usually requiring one of a finite set of 5-8 "special characters" which is often only revealed after you've chosen a password that doesn't have them. Or in…
They may be limiting entropy to make it easier for users to remember their password. A user that can't log in is most likely one that will churn.
I don't think firms like the electric company or (payroll company) ADP are worried that I'll churn.
Also, the Venn diagram of "memorable" and "reasonably secure" really only intersects in the region of "Correct horse battery staple" phrases -- and the problematic sites I'm talking about nearly always limit length, which thwarts that type of password terribly. What is the purpose of maxlength on a password?? These shouldn't be stored in any form other than a hash, so unless long enough to pose a DoS threat during the hashing process, length is truly none of their business.
Re: Siri AI
#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
They’re actively asking developers to index all the content in their apps, to provide Personal Context that Siri can use for user requests. And to create/index the actions available in the app. So, where developers comply, all of that content is now accessible to those alternative implementations. It’s not full read/write of the phone, and it’d exclude obvious secrets like passwords, but it is quite far reaching acce…
We may have a different view of what 'giving access' means in this context. The way I see it: If a user willingly (1) installs another AI app like deepseek and (2) willingly gives it access to 'full phone and app data' with a warning screen or setting of whatever that seems... like a good thing? I may not agree with those users that it's worthwhile providing their full private data to [some AI startup X] or [Some Chi…
I don’t have the EU perspective, which might be changed by things like GDPR, but I prefer Apple’s stance that “no one should have this data, not even us”.
One reason is that the data on a user’s phone isn’t solely owned by them. Some of it is shared with other people, or “belongs” to someone else: chat, email, shared documents, photos of people, contact information, etc.
In a corporate environment, this is more explicit: you have access to company information, so the IT department controls what apps you can install / run, because individual EEs won’t always make the best choices.
Second, I think app developers are more likely to share more data, if they know that the shared data doesn’t leave the user’s control. And that (presumably) makes the feature work better. If I’m developing an app, I’ll think twice about indexing any sensitive data, if I don’t know where it was going to end up.
Re: Siri AI
#266The only thing I want to know about this new Siri is how to turn it entirely off.
From an sysadmin perspective, assuming Apple provides full MDM toggles you can typically toggle these off one way or another. (.plist / preference keys, etc).
With the most recent 'Apple Intelligence' function, it took a while for Apple to grant the ability to disable/enable each feature, then a bit of time for the respective MDM Software developers (Jamf, etc) to provide toggles.
Re: Siri AI
#267The demo Mike Rockwell gave at WWDC was interesting. He kinda showed off Siri as like the Star Trek computer for your phone. I hope this is the direction Apple is going to continue in. Having AI as a user interface is way more interesting than chat bots, image editors, or copy editing.
> Having AI as a user interface is way more interesting than chat bots, image editors, or copy editing. What do you mean exactly? Audio conversation only? If so I don't see it very practical for most of the things
Use android auto Gemini assistant for 5 mins and tell me how interesting it is.
Re: Siri AI
#268In my opinion, this is late by almost two years. This should have been the v1 when they first presented Apple Intelligence.
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