Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

tomshardware.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

261–270 of 345 posts

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

#261

Post by X-Istence »

RobotToaster wrote: post #21
Aurornis wrote: post #7

OrcaSlicer supports Bambu printers already. Does anyone have any better sources for what this other fork supposedly did? EDIT: I’m not going to sit through another angry Louis Rossmann video, but from what I can see someone tried to make a branch of OrcaSlicer that interacted directly with Bambu’s private cloud APIs to impersonate Bambu Studio. I don’t agree with the legal threats but this case is about connecting to…

Bambu's proprietary networking plugin uses the agpl libraries from slic3r/prusaslicer, by not releasing the source code they're violating the AGPL.

Where is the proof for that? I am interested in learning more about the network plugin! I was under the impression it did not use any AGPL code at all, and that it basically just talked HTTP.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

#262

Post by skhameneh »

jchw wrote: post #66

I made the tragic mistake of getting a Bambu printer (an X1C, with AMS even...) right before they gave all of us the middle finger. I now have it offline, running out of date firmware, connected to a special WiFi network that is isolated from the Internet. That upset me, but now I'm pissed. Now I don't even care about their stupid printers. Now I'd like to waste Bambu Lab's time and cause problems for them. And also,…

If you’re eyeing Prusa, that’ll probably be ideal. ...but it does look like Sovol is teasing an INDX alternative (I have a Sovol SV08, it’s a “good value” tinkerer printer based on the Voron)

And if you really want “open”, there’s isn’t much better than a Voron in that aspect.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

#263

Post by xattt »

fileoffset wrote: post #240
xattt wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although local LAN control is still unhindered, browsing the filesystem on the printer from the slicer is locked behind cloud mode. Getting cloud mode means using Bambu Studio. Getting Bambu Studio means one more notch in slowly getting locked into the walled Bambu garden.

doesn't the bambu have a built in FTP server?

Well now, this is a nice surprise. I had no idea, as it’s not very obvious.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

#264

Post by bdcravens »

fc417fc802 wrote: post #221
bdcravens wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For most people, it is definitely a closed ecosystem, similar to the iPhone. But they do give people the escape hatch if they're willing to take ownership of the software they run. (To be fair, they only enabled this after a lot of backlash)

Willing to take ownership, and also forgo a lot of functionality that the device was billed as having when it was purchased. Defending Bambu here seems like the same mentality as supporting a manufacturer that implements a subscription model for heated seats in their cars. (Don't worry, we're an ethical manufacturer so we don't charge a premium for access to heated seats. As long as you have our app on your phone (re…

Or perhaps Claude, where if you decide go use a client other than theirs you are on your own in terms of the pricing model and implementation.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

#265

Post by scronkfinkle »

lawn wrote: post #195
smitty1e wrote: post #2

Who are some 3D printer vendors that are worthy of support?

Get a VORON printer and get a kit. They're completely open (both software and hardware) and you can mod and do whatever the hell you want with them.

+1, my wife and I have been working on a VORON 2.4 together and it's been a blast!

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

#266

Post by Auracle »

duxup wrote: post #255
jchw wrote: post #66

I made the tragic mistake of getting a Bambu printer (an X1C, with AMS even...) right before they gave all of us the middle finger. I now have it offline, running out of date firmware, connected to a special WiFi network that is isolated from the Internet. That upset me, but now I'm pissed. Now I don't even care about their stupid printers. Now I'd like to waste Bambu Lab's time and cause problems for them. And also,…

I was almost just like you I got some recommendations from HN, all of them were for Bambu. I was lucky and they didn’t have any in stock when I wanted to buy… Now I’m nervous about buying one from anyone.

There’s no reason to be nervous.

You can use their slicer (which works well!). If you don’t want to, you can use one that sends through their Bambu Connect software, which Orca Slicer doesn’t want to support for…reasons. Or you can use it in LAN mode. Or you can just transfer the gcode via an SD card or flash drive like ye olde days.

Despite the tone of the other reply to your question, they are absolutely the easiest printers to work with. I don’t love their new multicolor solution for how slow it is compared to other options, but that would be the only real fault with their newest line.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

#267

Post by cam_l »

tssva wrote: post #239
wolvoleo wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meh. I use bambu and I am a maker but it's not a big thing in my opinion. I bought a bambu precisely because I don't want to mod the thing with a gazillion custom upgrades like I needed to do with my previous printers to make them work reliably. I just want to press print and... print. Bambu totally delivers there. They really commoditised 3D printing and brought the price down. And if you do want to go off the beate…

My daughter is an architecture student and needed a 3d printer to help with making models for her studio class. She had no desire to learn the ends and outs of 3d printers. She wanted something easy to use and reliable. The Bambu Labs printer I bought her has been just that.

I honestly get that, architecture is such a time intensive degree. It is drilled into you to produce results more than to care about the process.. and to spend more time on exploration and resolution than on learning.

I do think though, that a little learning and understanding of your tools is such a useful thing practically and creatively speaking, but also ultimately time saving.

Slow, as they say, is fast.

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

#268

Post by cybercatgurrl »

tssva wrote: post #239
wolvoleo wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meh. I use bambu and I am a maker but it's not a big thing in my opinion. I bought a bambu precisely because I don't want to mod the thing with a gazillion custom upgrades like I needed to do with my previous printers to make them work reliably. I just want to press print and... print. Bambu totally delivers there. They really commoditised 3D printing and brought the price down. And if you do want to go off the beate…

My daughter is an architecture student and needed a 3d printer to help with making models for her studio class. She had no desire to learn the ends and outs of 3d printers. She wanted something easy to use and reliable. The Bambu Labs printer I bought her has been just that.

i tossed my ender 3 for this reason alone. it’s just not worth the headache. it’s like the physical manifestation of vim, endless ways to tweak it and you could get lost with the tool instead of getting anything done. and i don’t even have a replacement, i’d rather have nothing than have a headache inducer

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

#269

Post by Auracle »

Symbiote wrote: post #184
SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought a Prusa several years ago that I had a rollercoaster of feels on. It's reliable, works great, but also cost me $900. For the next 3 years or so I was wondering whether I should have just bought a $250 Bambu and gotten almost same results. Now I'm happy I didn't.

Both friends with Bambu printers bought them because they were cheaper than Prusa, and they wanted "a tool, not a hobby" (which I think is marketing invented to disparage an open source, repairable printer). Three years later, they have unreliable printers that are difficult to maintain. I have a five year old Prusa, still working very nicely, and it's still a tool and not itself a hobby.

Without looking it up I’m guessing I’ve had my P1S for 3 or more years and I’ve never had a single issue with it, to the point where I wonder what issues your friends have?

Re: Louis Rossmann offers to pay legal fees for a threatened OrcaSlicer developer

#270

Post by foxylad »

microtonal wrote: post #109
jchw wrote: post #66

I made the tragic mistake of getting a Bambu printer (an X1C, with AMS even...) right before they gave all of us the middle finger. I now have it offline, running out of date firmware, connected to a special WiFi network that is isolated from the Internet. That upset me, but now I'm pissed. Now I don't even care about their stupid printers. Now I'd like to waste Bambu Lab's time and cause problems for them. And also,…

After my initial Ender 3v2 (which was my entry point to 3D printing, but a terrible printer otherwise), we bought a Prusa even thought it was much more expensive than Bambu because we wanted to support a European company and because as a European company they are under the GDPR. It has been absolutely great and low-effort. I haven't needed it yet, but their printers seem to be focused on easy maintenance by their own…

Same, but the first printer was an Anet A8. Moving to a Prussa Mini was a breath of fresh air, going from 35% to 95% print success.
Post reply on HN