I'm pretty Kimi is what Cursor uses for their "composer 2" model. Works pretty good as a fallback when Claude runs out, but definitely a downgrade.
It's a Kimi K2.5 finetune, there was some drama about this a few weeks ago.
What was the drama about?
Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding
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Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding
#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's tradition at this point. Based on the upvotes the comment receives, it looks like many readers find value in it.
Upvotes are cheap, the fact that something is upvoted doesn't mean it's valuable (see: Reddit). Another thing is how insightful is the discussion under a typical pelican comment are (and how much of it is related to the pelican and how often it's just where the general discussion happens).
It means somebody likes it.
Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding
#263Earlier quoted context omitted.
At this point drawing these Pelicans must be in the training data sets.
not if I can help it! https://github.com/scosman/pelicans_riding_bicycles
I hereby certify that these are indeed the most perfect and precise svg depictions of pelican riding a bicycle, also known among biology scholars as pelycles
Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding
#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
> That's what I wrote? No. You wrote that "you won't hear about Tiananmen square from this model" and atemerev wrote that "the model itself talks fine about Tiananmen". You wrote that "it can easily access any withheld or missing info from training data via tool calls" and atemerev wrote that "the model itself talks fine about Tiananmen".
It has internal bias too and the first comment mentions that additional censoring runs on top of the model output in the API. Did you misread or what else are you missing?
The issue is not what's missing - it's what you wrote that is in direct contradiction with what atemerev wrote like the bit about "missing info from training data".
But sure, if when you wrote "you won't hear about Tiananmen square from this model" you meant "the model itself talks fine about Tiananmen" then that's exactly what you wrote.
Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding
#265There is some humor in the fact that china (of all countries) is pioneering possibly the world's most important tech via open source, while we (US) are doing the exact opposite.
China is also way ahead in terms of renewable energy while the US continues to tie itself to fossil fuels.
The US is pretty clearly in the collapsing empire phase, we are all just pretending like it isn't happening.
Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding
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It's a Kimi K2.5 finetune, there was some drama about this a few weeks ago.
What was the drama about?
They were not open about the fact that it was trained on Kimi K2.5. This link explains it better than I can:
https://www.trendingtopics.eu/cursor-admits-composer-2-is-bu...
Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding
#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a Kimi K2.5 finetune, there was some drama about this a few weeks ago.
What was the drama about?
Cursor seemingly went out of their way to not mention that they were actually running Kimi K2.5 and essentially by that omission made it seem like they had made their own model. They added a note to a blog post about using it at some point and then when they wrote a new one they conveniently left it out again.
That's at least what I perceived as "the drama".
Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding
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#269There is some humor in the fact that china (of all countries) is pioneering possibly the world's most important tech via open source, while we (US) are doing the exact opposite.
I think one of the motivations is undermining US companies. OpenAI and Anthropic are the two biggest players, and are American. Open weights models reduce the power those two big players have over the industry. If the Chinese companies tried to play by US rules and close-source their products then people would mostly use ChatGPT and Claude. So the Chinese companies don't make a ton of profit either way, but by releas…
undermine me harder daddy.
Re: Kimi K2.6: Advancing open-source coding
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https://imgur.com/a/censorship-much-CBxXOgt (continues after the ad break)
And the White House was explicit in their active role in censoring in these models. An Executive Order was issued to "prevent woke AI" https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/07/prev... It explicitly forces American LLMs to include government say in what does and doesn't "comply with the Unbiased AI Principles" which means no responses that promote "ideological dogmas such as DEI"
That executive order only applies to Federal procurement. It doesn’t force anything upon vendors for publicly used models.
(That order, like many, will probably be rescinded as soon as a Democrat holds the Presidency again.)