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Officials Claim Drone Incursion Led to Shutdown of El Paso Airport

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Post by xtracto »

reactordev wrote: post #185
Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even Cartels know that shooting down civilian aircraft in US airspace would be an escalation that would lead to heavy retaliation. Doesn't seem likely to me.

Coming from groups that just pickup busses of people to murder, I wouldn’t be so sure that firing back at the US would be out of the question.

This is different.

See, Drug cartels over here operate with the blessing and favor of our president. They are tightly connected.

If a cartel dared to ground a US flight. The US government would have a "free pass" to break all hell loose in Mexico, and Sheinbaum wouldn't have a way to stop it.

She doesn't want that in any way, so the message to the cartel bosses would be to be very careful in that respect.

Sure, there have been US citizens killed within Mexico here and there, but those can easily be attributed to local violence. And as retribution, Mexican government sends a couple of wanted criminals to the US.

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Post by mazugrin2 »

bombcar wrote: post #186
petesergeant wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does that mean sorry?

FL180 is 18000 feet, meaning that flights OVER don’t need to divert.

It is a pedantic but meaningful distinction that I'd only point out on a sorta geeky site like this, but actually, FL180 (or, flight level one-eight-zero) is the altitude at which an altimeter will read 18,000 feet if it's set to assume that the barometric pressure is 1013 hPa (29.92 inHg). Above a certain transition altitude, aircraft switch their altimeters from reading altitude in the local pressure to this "standard" pressure. This is because above that altitude and safely away from terrain, it's no longer important to know precisely how high you are, but it _is_ important to know what altitude you are relative to all the other aircraft nearby.

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Post by diogenes_atx »

thomasjudge wrote: post #260

Closure rescinded https://x.com/FAANews/status/2021583720465969421

WTF? The FAA announces a ban on all flights at an international airport and then withdraws the ban within a few hours of the announcement? What kind of insane police state would try a stunt like that? Even for the Trump administration, that is setting the bar at a new low.

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Post by ibejoeb »

_joel wrote: post #250
ibejoeb wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not hard to imagine these days? Wouldn't you hope for an intervention if it were known that a hostile, state-level military planned to down civilian aircraft?

What happened after https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17 ?

I can't read your mind.

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Post by embedding-shape »

Trasmatta wrote: post #263
thomasjudge wrote: post #260

Closure rescinded https://x.com/FAANews/status/2021583720465969421

So bizarre Why the 10 day announcement overnight only to totally rescind it before the majority of US citizens wake up and read the news?

Hoping it slips under other news like "Woah someone else should pay for this wall/bridge/investigation" so no one really notices it. To be fair, seems most things are about trying to direct the news somewhere else, most of the times being successful at that too.

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Post by baq »

huevosabio wrote: post #253
wocka wrote: post #249

The Federal Aviation Administration said it had lifted the temporary closure of airspace over El Paso that it had imposed last night. “All flights will resume as normal,” the F.A.A. said on social media.

What a bizarre move.

Reminds me of the chaos monkey. Building resilience by breaking and fixing stuff.

Not sure if applicable here, though.

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

baq wrote: post #119
incomingpain wrote: post #88

https://tfr.faa.gov/tfr3/?page=detail_6_2233 This isnt a particularly special thing. It's a catchall rule and given the identical one to the west, it looks like a common military one.

Neither military nor medevac is exempted. This is unusual.

The medevac is scary. This could cost lives. Hopefully there's a reason but, given how clumsy this admin is, who can say?

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Post by kotaKat »

diogenes_atx wrote: post #265
thomasjudge wrote: post #260

Closure rescinded https://x.com/FAANews/status/2021583720465969421

WTF? The FAA announces a ban on all flights at an international airport and then withdraws the ban within a few hours of the announcement? What kind of insane police state would try a stunt like that? Even for the Trump administration, that is setting the bar at a new low.

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