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Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by alchemism »

fragmede wrote: post #244
bgwalter wrote: post #197

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Indeed. Free grok.com got significantly worse this week and has been on a decline since shortly after the release of Grok-4. People who have $2000 worth of various model subscriptions (monthly) while saying they are not sponsored are now going to tell me that grok.com is a different model than Grok-4-fast-1337, but the trend is obvious.

What are the other ones to get to $2,000? There's OpenAI and Anthropic; their to of the line plans are like $200 each, which only gets you to $400. there's a handful of other services, but how do you get to $2,000?

AWS Bedrock of course

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by rayiner »

sd9 wrote: post #229
jorvi wrote: post #193

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Grok's biggest feature is that unlike all the other premier models (yes I know about ChatGPT's new adult mode), it hasn't been lobotomized by censoring.

I am amazed people actually believe this Grok is the most biased of the lot, and they’re not even trying to hide it particularly well

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Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by jamespo »

roman_soldier wrote: post #127
andai wrote: post #42

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Thought this would be about the whistleblower. They didn't even mention it!

Yes allegedly having an employee bumped off for whistleblowing and the sister thing is way worse than someone having a different opinion than you. One is criminal the other is free speech.

"roman soldier" indeed

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by pixel_popping »

ramraj07 wrote: post #192
ronsor wrote: post #48

This post really has no reason to be flagged. I know Elon is controversial, and I have a lot of gripes with his business practices myself, but this is literally just documentation for a frontier LLM. Can we stay on topic?

Here's an on topic question: all the frontier model companies "promise" that they wont store and train on your api use if you pay for it. Who do you trust? I for sure will absolutely assume grok will just use the data I submit to train in perpetuity. Thats a scary thing for me and if anyone else does anything thats real work this should be great cause for worry if they wish to use grok.

Do you really think Google isn't logging all our prompts?

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by BoiledCabbage »

rayiner wrote: post #262
sd9 wrote: post #229

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I am amazed people actually believe this Grok is the most biased of the lot, and they’re not even trying to hide it particularly well

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Nothing you posted (from an almost two year old article btw) in anyway refutes the prior comment.

Grok is significantly the most biased. Did you sleep through its continuous insertion of made up stuff about south africa?

This is the same person who is trying to re-write an entire encyclopedia because facts aren't biased enough.

A group has created an alternate reality echo chamber, and the more reality doesn't match up the more they are trying to invent a fake one.

When you're on the side of book banning and Orwellian re-writing of facts & history that side never turns out to have been the good side. It's human nature for some people to be drawn to it as an easy escape rather than allowing their world views to be challenged. But you'd be pretty pressed to find the group doing that any of the times it's been done to have been anything but a negative for their society.

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by afavour »

rayiner wrote: post #262
sd9 wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am amazed people actually believe this Grok is the most biased of the lot, and they’re not even trying to hide it particularly well

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> it's undisputed that Chat GPT and Gemini insert hidden text into prompts to change the outputs to conform to certain social ideologies

And why do you think Grok doesn’t? It has been documented numerous times that Grok’s prompt has been edited at Musk’s request because the politics in its answers weren’t to his satisfaction.

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by NotGMan »

BoiledCabbage wrote: post #265
rayiner wrote: post #262

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Nothing you posted (from an almost two year old article btw) in anyway refutes the prior comment. Grok is significantly the most biased. Did you sleep through its continuous insertion of made up stuff about south africa? This is the same person who is trying to re-write an entire encyclopedia because facts aren't biased enough. A group has created an alternate reality echo chamber, and the more reality doesn't match…

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Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by cedws »

mehdibl wrote: post #8

What matter is not context or the recod token/s you get. But the quality for the model. And it seem Grok pushing the wrong metrics again, after launching fast.

Big context window is an amplifier for LLMs. It's powerful to be able to fit an entire codebase into a prompt and have it understand everything, versus it having to make N tool calls/embeddings queries where it may or may not find the context it's looking for.

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by afavour »

NotGMan wrote: post #267
BoiledCabbage wrote: post #265

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing you posted (from an almost two year old article btw) in anyway refutes the prior comment. Grok is significantly the most biased. Did you sleep through its continuous insertion of made up stuff about south africa? This is the same person who is trying to re-write an entire encyclopedia because facts aren't biased enough. A group has created an alternate reality echo chamber, and the more reality doesn't match…

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Can’t help but feel everyone making a pro-Grok argument here isn’t actually making the case that it’s uncensored, rather that it’s censored in a way that aligns with their politics, and thus is good

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by sidibe »

roman_soldier wrote: post #134
behnamoh wrote: post #6

Who here actually uses Grok? It's sad to see Elon's arc but when he doubled down on some of his political ideas he had it coming with the Tesla sales going down and x.ai not taken seriously. I've always tried to remain apolitical and unbiased but it's hard to overlook who's behind a technology you wanna buy. Not that sama and others are saints either, it's just Elon's very obvious and vocal about it. It's a shame, re…

At least Elon is open about what he believes. Other CEO's hide behind corporate PR machines, how do you know they are not psychopaths.

There's a nonzero chance they are not psychopaths. Elon reminds us daily about his chances
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