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Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by wewewedxfgdf »

nsoonhui wrote: post #101

It's a shame that the top comments are focusing more on Elon Musk, his personality and politics rather than the quality of the model per se. Speaking about Elon, regardless of what you think of him, he really does get things done, despite naysayers -- SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink and even get Trump elected ( despite subsequent fallout) etc. Even Twitter is finding a second life by becoming a haven for the free speech adv…

>> regardless of what you think of him, he really does get things done, despite naysayers -- SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink and even get Trump elected

It matters how people behave.

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by snthpy »

legacynl wrote: post #98
snthpy wrote: post #84

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Why is that? Does Chinese company really equal Chinese government?

Basically yes. China doesn't have a democracy, and it's government isn't bound by it's laws. If CCP thinks deepseek or any other product/tech can be a beneficial to Chinese strategy they will come knocking, and there's no denying whatever they demand. It can be backdooring, data harvesting, etc, there's really no saying how far they might go.

Ok, good points. Thanks

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by thereitgoes456 »

nsoonhui wrote: post #101

It's a shame that the top comments are focusing more on Elon Musk, his personality and politics rather than the quality of the model per se. Speaking about Elon, regardless of what you think of him, he really does get things done, despite naysayers -- SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink and even get Trump elected ( despite subsequent fallout) etc. Even Twitter is finding a second life by becoming a haven for the free speech adv…

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Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by roman_soldier »

behnamoh wrote: post #6

Who here actually uses Grok? It's sad to see Elon's arc but when he doubled down on some of his political ideas he had it coming with the Tesla sales going down and x.ai not taken seriously. I've always tried to remain apolitical and unbiased but it's hard to overlook who's behind a technology you wanna buy. Not that sama and others are saints either, it's just Elon's very obvious and vocal about it. It's a shame, re…

At least Elon is open about what he believes. Other CEO's hide behind corporate PR machines, how do you know they are not psychopaths.

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by snthpy »

retinaros wrote: post #90
snthpy wrote: post #84

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Why is that? Does Chinese company really equal Chinese government?

lol. is that really a question? even for american companies look who's at the board of those companies...

Fair enough. I'm just sick of the reflexive anti-Chinese hysteria. I wouldn't want to live there personally and condemn the human rights abuses as much as the next guy. However in international politics it's clear who the two largest terrorist regimes have been over the last fifty years and yet they're still somehow held up as the good guys.

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Post by sureglymop »

legacynl wrote: post #98
snthpy wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that? Does Chinese company really equal Chinese government?

Basically yes. China doesn't have a democracy, and it's government isn't bound by it's laws. If CCP thinks deepseek or any other product/tech can be a beneficial to Chinese strategy they will come knocking, and there's no denying whatever they demand. It can be backdooring, data harvesting, etc, there's really no saying how far they might go.

On the other hand at least you can self host their models. My university now has an inference cluster for students and faculty to use open source models.

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by jeffhuys »

dmead wrote: post #38
LorenDB wrote: post #35

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I do! I have felt bad vibes from OpenAI for a while now, and eventually defaulted to Grok as somewhat the lesser of many evils. I respect anybody who doesn't wish to use it, but it's good enough for what I need it for. Case in point: it just spit out valid OpenSCAD code for an adapter piece I want to 3D print.

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You know, feel free to keep thinking this. In my experience Grok is the best. I don’t let myself into weird groupthink that happens just because trolls took advantage of Grok’s absence of lobotomy. Kind of a superpower.

Re: Grok 4 Fast now has 2M context window

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Post by jeffhuys »

Geee wrote: post #118
enraged_camel wrote: post #86

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The guy spends most of his time signal-boosting deeply racist, antisemitic, white supremacist stuff on X. He's obsessed with stuff like "replacement theory" and constantly insists white people must make as many babies as possible to maintain their cultural superiority and avoid being outnumbered by other races. You don't have to believe me. Go check for yourself.

It's extremely disrespectful to call the people from minority and diminishing cultures racist or white supremacist for protecting their own culture. Birth rate / demographic / cultural shifts are real problems. Elon has never talked about "white people" or their superiority. These issues have nothing to do with skin color. Same issues are faced by many asian countries as well.

It’s called suicidal empathy.

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Post by Yoric »

gitaarik wrote: post #83
vlovich123 wrote: post #39

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> meaning it isn't tuned much for political correctness Is being tuned for right wing viewpoints the same as not being tuned for political correctness? Because there is tuning happening to a specific viewpoint: https://gizmodo.com/elon-says-hes-working-to-fix-grok-after-...

Yeah, but you can argue that the AI has been biased because of biased training data. Ultimately every AI is biased based on what you train it on and how you instruct it. I tend to use LLMs from different companies and personally compare them, and read between the lines.

> I tend to use LLMs from different companies and personally compare them, and read between the lines.

Read between the lines? Does this mean that you're using LLMs as a source of information?

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