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Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Post by pdabbadabba »

arvinsim wrote: post #241
jandrewrogers wrote: post #164

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Saying "gravity and concrete are undefeated" is not explanatory. In 25+ years of carrying a naked mobile phone everywhere I've never broken one. My lifestyle theoretically exposes me to significantly greater risk of damage than the average person too. I view phones as semi-disposable devices, so I take no special care or precautions. I am eternally baffled as to why people need cases on their phones. The observation…

I am baffled why people wouldn't put a case on their phones? Thickness? There are a lot of thin cases that will do the job. Heavy? Better to invest more on arm exercises if that weight is dealbreaker Status symbol to show off? There are better things to buy if you are in that sort of thing.

The phone looks much nicer without a case. And in my 10+ ceaseless years, I’ve only damaged my phone once (and, in that case, I doubt that a thin silicone case would have saved me). And in that one case, I just needed to replace the front glass. Cost about $40 IIRC.

So why would I use a case?

Your mileage may vary, though, if you have kids, are a woman (fewer/shallower pockets), etc.

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Post by fuzzfactor »

lovich wrote: post #225
jandrewrogers wrote: post #164

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Saying "gravity and concrete are undefeated" is not explanatory. In 25+ years of carrying a naked mobile phone everywhere I've never broken one. My lifestyle theoretically exposes me to significantly greater risk of damage than the average person too. I view phones as semi-disposable devices, so I take no special care or precautions. I am eternally baffled as to why people need cases on their phones. The observation…

> In 25+ years of carrying a naked mobile phone everywhere I've never broken one. If you’re going to include the pre smart phone era of mobile phones in the discussion, it would be nice to let people know

Keep in mind that the Sony-Ericsson smartphones from 25 years ago did not fail to advance as time marched on.

By the time the iPhone was revealed the Sonys at the time made Apples look pretty dumb by comparison.

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Post by fuzzfactor »

tpm wrote: post #227
jandrewrogers wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saying "gravity and concrete are undefeated" is not explanatory. In 25+ years of carrying a naked mobile phone everywhere I've never broken one. My lifestyle theoretically exposes me to significantly greater risk of damage than the average person too. I view phones as semi-disposable devices, so I take no special care or precautions. I am eternally baffled as to why people need cases on their phones. The observation…

For some time I was like you. But then things happened, for example I put the phone on an outdoor restaurant table, someone kicked the table, phone fell down onto the metal base of the table, screen cracked. There isn't really anything I could do to save it short of not carrying it around, or using a case.

>There isn't really anything I could do to save it short of not carrying it around,

That's my go-to right there.

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Post by dcow »

shpx wrote: post #145
Aurornis wrote: post #65

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Cases are great because everyone can get one that matches their risk level and frequency of drops. Having a sacrificial outer layer that I can replace for $10 is also preferable to letting the $1000 phone take the damage.

You usually just need to replace the front or back glass, which is $30 with Apple Care or $60 for both, not the entire iPhone. I crack mine about once a year.

How do you replace just the glass with AppleCare? They always tell you it’s a full phone replace if the glass is broken, unless it’s changed recently (which would be welcome).

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Post by latexr »

joshstrange wrote: post #253
IlikeMadison wrote: post #104

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Wrong. The vast majority of Apple fans don't care about Android. I never see "Apple fans" going in threads about random Android stuff and talking about it. On the opposite, I see a lot of Android users complain and talk in every single videos regarding anything Apple on YouTube.

I will preface this with: Apple is _far_ from perfect, sometimes they even fail the “good” bar and I have serious issues with the direction they are going on some products/software. However, I see them as the lessor of two evils. I understand you might not agree, that’s just the conclusion I’ve come to. > Wrong. The vast majority of Apple fans don't care about Android. This is my experience as well. I prefer Apple pr…

My experience is very similar to yours. I am the biggest Apple critic I personally know (don’t get me started on Tim Cook) though I don’t even share a tenth of it because I don’t want to bother my non-technical friends. But I do use a Mac and an iPhone because I prefer them to the alternatives. If I had my way, several things about those products and the company would be different, but at a certain point I had to make a choice and get on with my life.

Still, I have found several people who are outright Apple haters and can’t fathom that anyone who uses their products is anything but a brainwashed puppet. These people talk about Apple more than their most ardent fans. It’s an irrational amount of hate I only ever see from meat eaters who hate vegetarians.

A while back I had a friend who (by choice) uses both a Mac and Android describe to me what they disliked about the iPhone when they used one for a few minutes, in a tone that sounded like personal criticism and disappointment. What do I care? It has nothing to do with me, the products I use aren’t a part of my identity.

Another friend, one who uses Windows and Android, used to grill me about Apple on every chance. I mostly ignored it, but eventually just explained: “Look, it’s not that I think Apple is flawless. On the contrary, I think they have plenty of flaws. But I have tried many operating systems (he, on the other hand, always lived on Windows and Android) and Apple’s are the ones which fit what I need to do the least badly”. To his credit, he understood and never again touched the subject.

My philosophy regarding operating systems, text editors, and other subjective sources of flame wars is pretty simple: Use whatever makes you happy and works for you. I don’t care what that is, as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else. If you ask me a question or an opinion, I’ll try to answer it as truthfully and with as much relevancy as possible for you. I’ll tell you if there’s something I think you may benefit from knowing, but you control the conversation. But if you just want to ignorantly gush about my very informed picks, I’m not interested. Live and let live.

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Post by fuzzfactor »

frizlab wrote: post #78
lejohnq wrote: post #76

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I’ve been caseless for a while and have had a couple of drops and the phone has been fine. When I eventually upgrade my phone, I’ll probably stay caseless, or add minimal protection. Mainly cause if the increasingly rare catastrophic drop happens, it’d be unpleasant to deal with. I do like some cases for their design elements, I might use one to just further personalize my phone.

I have been caseless forever. If I drop the phone and it breaks I’ll bring it to repairs (I used to do it myself but it’s more complicated now and I don’t have the time anymore anyways).

>I have been caseless forever.

Almost the same here. We got new identical phones in 2023 for a good deal because they were made in 2022.

She breaks hers fairly regularly and myself not at all so far.

I guess they are considered obsolete already because in our complex there was apparently someone operating a cellphone shop who was discarding a couple dozen assorted brand new cases for this exact phone!

Fancy ones, tough ones, light ones, some with kickstands, quite a variety.

None of which I could abide for very long. She loves the most fashionable one.

Then one day I found something I could use that was made of a space-age fiber I have been long acquainted with, rayon.

It was an ankle sock, and it was not one of hers.

Pretty much useless by itself as footwear, so it existed for a time as orphan laundry before I tried it.

Uncased phone doesn't fall out when you handle it upside down, but slips out real easy when you want it to. Plus you can see who's calling through the fiber without having to remove it beforehand.

It surprised me that people seem to show more interest than they do for more fashionable alternatives that are not even footwear at all :)

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Post by fuzzfactor »

Aurornis wrote: post #67
orev wrote: post #36

Which most people are going to immediately cover with an insulating layer of plastic or silicone. At least the heat will be spread out from one spot (and into the battery?). All phone makers are doing what they can within the design constraints.

> Which most people are going to immediately cover with an insulating layer of plastic or silicone. Or their hand. Or their pocket. It’s fine. It’s planned. The cooling solution’s job is to spread the heat around as much as possible so it can be dissipated in the limited conditions available.

When the bare phone is in your hand and it's quite a bit warmer than body temperature, your hand may very well be carrying away more heat than ambient air exchange would be capable of.

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Post by fcarraldo »

garbagewoman wrote: post #204
wlesieutre wrote: post #188

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$120/year on an iPhone 17, or $140/year on Air, Pro, and Pro Max Even for one year that's more than I'd spend to avoid using a phone case, and if I keep it for five years again that's $700. There are other benefits to AppleCare (a case doesn't cover theft or loss) but I'm not very worried about any of them.

I mean its wasteful in terms of the energy/co2 required to service your phone replacements. Wasting resources unnecessarily.

Given the unlikelihood that you need it serviced, it’s significantly less wasteful than a case made of plastic and shipped globally.

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Post by gf000 »

loloquwowndueo wrote: post #92
rz2k wrote: post #55

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The titanium iPhones, at least, are nearly impervious to scratches when dropped on concrete or asphalt from a reasonable height. I “scientifically” test this pretty often. Because the iPhone 15 pro was significantly lighter than previous pro models, I wanted to avoid a case to get the most out of this improvement. However, I wouldn’t have even experimented with not using a case if it weren’t for the applecare+ plans…

Phones 20 years ago didn’t have expansive glass-covered screens. The biggest I had (blackberry curve) was fairly plasticky and quite sturdy, when dropped it might sometimes eject the battery compartment cover but otherwise survived in perfect working order. And of course Nokias were almost indestructible.

I mean, they were pretty trivial electronic components with a tiny screen wrapped in a kg of plastic. Like, what even could go wrong with them?

But modern smartphones are anything like that, and people do like the more premium materials on the outside (and it sort of makes sense - if you have a device that you are using 24/7, it might as well "feel" more premium), so I don't think it's a fair comparison

Re: Vapor chamber tech keeps iPhone 17 Pro cool

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Post by cassianoleal »

garbagewoman wrote: post #184
cassianoleal wrote: post #52

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I don't use a case or screen protectors. My 15 Pro frequently falls on the floor. The back shattered on multiple occasions, but even then never became a cut hazard. The screen remains pristine.

Did you know there are cases that will prevent that damage and avoid the massive carbon footprint associated with the repairs you were fortunate enough to get?

What repairs?
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