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I hope you realize the phrase “go woke go broke” is crafted to turn your brain off the same way “freedom is slavery” would.
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#262What about what he said was so controversial? It seems entirely in line with everything else I’ve seen happen on these kinds of shows.
He dared to ridicule uncle Donald and his gang. That’s more than enough.
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#263Earlier quoted context omitted.
It wasn't controversial, but this is literally the textbook Manufacturing Consent model. The small number of people in positions of power at the network are either overtly aligned with the president that he just talked bad about, or want to stay or get on the president's good side. He doesn't even need to pick up the phone or post anything on social media, they know what they need to do.
To be fair to the executives. The main regulator that could essentially issue the corporate death penalty, the FCC chairman that can revoke their license to operate, literally said “we can do this the easy way or the hard way”. That’s a Dirty Harry or goodfellas quote. So much for “government shouldn’t pick winners and losers in the economy”.
You really don't have to be fair to the executives. The FCC absolutely can't do shit about Jimmy Kimmel, and would lose the procedure if it ever came to it. Instead, they immediately bent the knee and decided that loyalty to the nascent fascist regime was more important that standing up against the most clear cut and unjustifiable attack to free speech in a long time.
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#264What about what he said was so controversial? It seems entirely in line with everything else I’ve seen happen on these kinds of shows.
To those that are interpreting his comments in a certain way, the implication that Robinson is maga is highly offensive and textbook "misinformation". Edit: there's clearly several ways to interpret what he said. I'm not making any kind of argument here, just answering op's question.
So when a talk show host vaguely on the left implies something that might not be true it is ground enough to disregard the fucking first amendment and use the power of the state to censor him. But when the entire GOP, including the president, all fabricate obvious lies about the shooter being successively trans, then antifa and then a radical leftist, it's fine. The double standards are fucking crazy.
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#265Earlier quoted context omitted.
He did not say that the kid was MAGA, or at least not exactly. Here’s all he said about it: > We hit some new lows over the weekend, with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. > In between the finger pointing there was grieving. On Friday, the White House flew the flags at…
> with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them Anyone hearing this would take away that Tyler was maga, would they not? It heavily implies that he is maga, and that’s why the maga gang is trying to deflect. A lot of conclusions were jumped to early on by everyone. Things are more clear now, but still not 100%. From what I’ve seen so far he…
Your god-president lies every single time he opens his mouth. Huge lies. The biggest lies. He also ridicules everyone he dislikes. With hurtful language. All the time.
He has never apologized for jack shit.
> Anyone hearing this would take away that Tyler was maga, would they not? It heavily implies that he is maga, and that’s why the maga gang is trying to deflect.
No one is tuning into Jimmy Kimmell for "news", though I am quite sure that his show is more truthful on a daily basis than your Fox News & Newsmax liars.
> If the ultimate joke was to laugh at Trump talking about his ballroom, I don’t see what his maga comments added to that. He stepped into a hornets nest and added nothing to the joke in the process.
The joke is that Trump probably does not give a flying fuck about Kirk. He cares about himself. That's it. He pivoted right to bragging about his dumb fucking ballroom.
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#266What about what he said was so controversial? It seems entirely in line with everything else I’ve seen happen on these kinds of shows.
It hurt the feelings of the "fuck your feelings" crowd, who started frothing at the mouth before even thinking about what was actually said.
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#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
So why did the network fold so quickly? It's a simple enough explanation "we not journalists, these are all made up jokes and parodies, we send our condolences to the family ... etc". They folded because they knew how the statement was perceived. Here is half the country flying flags half staff and ABC owners are defending Kimmel. They are worried about views and profits and when that is threatened everything goes ou…
No, they folded because the United States Federal government threatened them. That fact is the only thing that should matter in this discussion. This is a clear violation of the 1st Amendment by the government against protected speech (no matter how many people find that protected speech distasteful).
> No, they folded because the United States Federal government threatened them.
Yes because they control the FCC and FCC has rules in regards to the content of broadcasts. Kimmel is free to say anything he wants on his own website or platform and such, but as soon as it's on the "air" rules apply.
> This is a clear violation of the 1st Amendment by the government against protected speech (no matter how many people find that protected speech distasteful).
If it's that clear the would have fought it. It wasn't clear at all. Moreover it was just a bad PR look instead of saying something like "condolences for the family blah blah" they would be defending Kimmel's phrasing. That's why they dropped like him a hot potato.
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#268Earlier quoted context omitted.
So why did the network fold so quickly? It's a simple enough explanation "we not journalists, these are all made up jokes and parodies, we send our condolences to the family ... etc". They folded because they knew how the statement was perceived. Here is half the country flying flags half staff and ABC owners are defending Kimmel. They are worried about views and profits and when that is threatened everything goes ou…
Perception has nothing to do with it, the mafia-threats did
> Perception has nothing to do with it, the mafia-threats did
Mafia threats work precisely because of perception. The perception of the power is the power. If everyone caves, and can't fight back, the mafia gets stronger.
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I hope you realize the phrase “go woke go broke” is crafted to turn your brain off the same way “freedom is slavery” would.
It simply means that operating a business for half the country is impossible for a large company like Disney. Companies were better off when they took the Michael Jordan approach that Republicans buy shoes too. Why as a business you would want to engage in politics is beyond me.
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#270Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think most commenters are missing that a local broadcaster monopoly used their own freedom of association to drop the show The FCC and Trump merely dogpiled on this For Disney, they need to court the broadcaster monopoly as a key stakeholder to their revenue, this is all private sector and not a constitutional issue But when Disney is getting kicked and then an expensive fight with the government looms while their…
The FCC and Trump "merely" dogpiling on is a clear violation of the 1st Amendment of the United States Constitution and should be condemned by all.
Ok. “Yes, its scary and authoritarian because it worked.” I said the line guys, happy? Moving on
There is also a protest of Nexstar’s advertisers to get them to avoid Nexstar for cancelling Jimmy Kimmel on their local broadcasters to begin with